How much faster's the 100% mount than the 60%?

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Crystalpall said:
Aren’t these the same?
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Well.... i'd say one says how fast the mount is and one says how much faster it is. Do you concur?

Saying base speed is 10 mph, 60% mount would be 16 mph and 100% would be 20 mph. Right?

So saying 100% travels 1.25x as fast is to say it travels at 20 mph.
But saying it's 25% faster is to say it travels 4 mph faster. Right?

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Druiddroid said:
The mount is 67% faster.

The player would go 25% faster by comparison.
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I would say that the mounts have no speed without the player, so 25% would be proper as the player will only either be going mount speed or standing still, assuming the question dismisses the time getting from zero to speed.
(edit- mount speed must include base speed, it's not just 60% vs 100%... it's 160% vs 200%)

I don't see the 67% tho… but im no scholar. If base speed is say 10, then 60% mount travels at 16 and 100% at 20.

20 is 25% faster than 16, as 5 is 25% more than 4.

20 is five fours, and 16 is four fours.... or 20 is 5/4 of 16, Right? 25% more.
 
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melabeari said:
100mph-60mph= 40mph
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No.

200 vs 160. The mounts aren't slower without a passenger, they are base speed PLUS % not just %.

edit- if you put your car on cruise control and jump out, it doesn't drop down 10 mph cuz you left and you go 10 mph.

It's still 40mph slower, but the percentage is different in your version. 40mph is 25% of 160 mph. Correct? 160+40 = 200
 
Warglave said:
No.

200 vs 160. The mounts aren't slower without a passenger, they are base speed PLUS % not just %.

edit- if you put your car on cruise control and jump out, it doesn't drop down 10 mph cuz you left and you go 10 mph.

It's still 40mph slower, but the percentage is different in your version. 40mph is 25% of 160 mph. Correct? 160+40 = 200
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its doesn't ask that, if one car goes 60mph and other goes 100mph, the faster one is 66.6666667% faster than the slower one, the question doesn't say what if the guy jumps out of the car. i think ur confusing speed with % of difference
 
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melabeari said:
if one car goes 60mph and other goes 100mph
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But it doesn't go 60%.

It goes 160%

Look at your character sheet under movement speed... the units in question are actual items that have a speed value.

edit- you move 100%... mounted you move 160% OR 200%. They only adjust YOUR speed. If the mount only moved at 60% you'd be faster on foot. You move at your speed, mounts just increase that value by a percentage... additive? I think?
 
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Warglave said:
But it doesn't go 60%.

It goes 160%

Look at your character sheet under movement speed... the units in question are actual items that have a speed value.

edit- you move 100%... mounted you move 160% OR 200%. They only adjust YOUR speed. If the mount only moved at 60% you'd be faster on foot. You move at your speed, mounts just increase that value by a percentage... additive? I think?
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question is "How much faster is the 100% mount THAN the 60%?"
the key word is THAN 60%,
40 is to 60 as X is to 100, solve for X
 
BUT IT'S NOT 100 v 60!!!

The 100% mount travels at 200% speed. Not 100% speed.

40 is to 160 as x is to 200.

Which I don't even like because x is then 50... o_O which is STILL 25% more than 40.

Use real life examples instead of percentages. They MUST transfer accurately because that's math.

Base speed: 10 mph
60% mount: 16 mph
100% mount: 20 mph

20 mph is 100% FASTER than 10 mph. Yes?
20 mph is 4 mph FASTER than 16 mph. Yes?
4 mph is 25% of 16 mph... Yes?

The 100% mount travels 25% FASTER than the 60% mount. Your version has the mount moving at 6 mph. Follow?

Your mounted speed CANNOT BE SLOWER than your base speed.
 
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Warglave said:
BUT IT'S NOT 100 v 60!!!

The 100% mount travels at 200% speed. Not 100% speed.

40 is to 160 as x is to 200.

Which I don't even like because x is then 50... o_O which is STILL 25% more than 40.

Use real life examples instead of percentages. They MUST transfer accurately because that's math.

Base speed: 10 mph
60% mount: 16 mph
100% mount: 20 mph

20 mph is 100% FASTER than 10 mph. Yes?
20 mph is 4 mph FASTER than 16 mph. Yes?
4 mph is 25% of 16 mph... Yes?

The 100% mount travels 25% FASTER than the 60% mount. Your version has the mount moving at 6 mph. Follow?
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u should forget speeds and focus on the % difference, ur using %'s and using speeds and mixing them incorrectly,
im gonna tap out of this, its been fun, maybe in the .00000000000000000000001...repeating% im wrong, im sorry
 
melabeari said:
ur using %'s and using speeds and mixing them incorrectly,
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You're using 1/2 a value and defending the answer... a 10 year old could understand this.

What is the 60% mount 60% of? Compared to the 100% mount?

60% more than -------> WHAT?!?!

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ok i will try one more time to help, if a car goes 60mph, 100% faster it's 120mph, not 160mph.
 
melabeari said:
ok i will try one more time to help, if a car goes 60mph, 100% faster it's 120mph, not 160mph.
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YES. Congratulations.

And how fast does it go when it's going 60% mount speed??? Compared to the 120mph it does at ---> 100% mount.

AND THEN...……………………….. how much faster is 120mph than THAT value?

base: 60mph
60% "mount": ???
100% "mount": 120 mph

Can you see it yet?

edit- before you fuck it up... what's --> 96 <-- times 1.25???
 
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Druiddroid said:
Due to the question’s ambiguity, we have two possible solutions.

The mount is 67% faster.

The player would go 25% faster by comparison.

Reasons provided by the aforementioned scholars @Crystalpall & @melabeari

Also, x = +/- ∞
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the way i read the question im comparing the mounts, i was just trying to show u where the 66.66667% came from cause u don't see it, i guess im not seeing "The player would go 25% faster by comparison."
 
melabeari said:
the way i read the question im comparing the mounts, i was just trying to show u where the 66.66667% came from cause u don't see it, i guess im not seeing "The player would go 25% faster by comparison."
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You literally just used your "way" to validate mine. And you're still lost?

The mount is not 67% faster, because you are using the WRONG VALUES to get there. You're missing the base speed.

It's NOT 60 vs 100, it's 160 vs 200. You say as much in your "the player by comparison".

You literally just did it right the post above... 100% faster is 2x faster. There needs to be a base speed to compare, because the mounts are BOTH a percentage FASTER than that value. You CANNOT compare them without it.

60% faster than ----> WHAT VALUE?
100% faster than ----> WHAT VALUE?

When "60%" mounted, you don't move at 60% of movement speed - you move at 160% of movement speed.
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edit- look... you just gave an example that literally invalidates your answer. Just finish your example above!

melabeari said:
if a car goes 60mph, 100% faster it's 120mph,
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60mph a 100% faster is 120mph,
100mph a 100% faster is 200mph
120 is to 200 as 60 is to 100 as 30 is to 50, 30 to 50 so, 20 diff, 20mph/30mph, 20 difference to the slower one 30, the the faster one is 20 more, 50 is 20 more than 30, so the difference is 20/30, 2/3, covert to %, im comparing the 20 more to the original speed 30, or 60, or 120mph. speed dont matter
 
the multiple choices are all in %, not mph or feet per day, or inches per minute, the choices are in %


% faster, the faster to the slower
 
But youre not using the proper values.

Speed doesn't matter... as long as all the values are proper.

100 mph, 200 mph, 10 mph. All the same percentages applied to those BASE values will give the appropriate result.

As long as you use the appropriate base.

Given any base speed greater than zero, your 100% mount speed will ALWAYS be 25% faster than the 60% mount speed.
 
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60 base speed, 100 base speed, the faster is 40 more base speed than the slower, now compare the slower base speed to the difference 40 base speed, 40 more than 60 is the faster, so the difference divide by the slower, 4/6 reduced to 2/3 convert to %
 
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