Hitrating needed for higher level mobs?

[xxMDMA]

Going skinning. But need moar hit to hit those red mobs.



Is it 5% for your own level, and then increase 1% for each level?



I know things like parry/glancing blows and stuff increase at a crazy rate each level but i guess theres nothing to fix that. Not many "expertise" stuff at 29 as i know.

 

[xxMDMA]

Aha! Found expertise also..

[item]Raptor Hide Harness[/item]

[item]Nimble Leather Gloves[/item]

Thats gonna help alot.

 

[Bansil]

kutty + x did some pve when the xp lock was live...



maybe you can poke em ingame, they did a lot of research and hitstacking.

 

[Xailter]

kutty + x did some pve when the xp lock was live...



maybe you can poke em ingame, they did a lot of research and hitstacking.

That was for the 39 bracket where it's a lot easier to get hit rating though. However for your convenience here is the required caps for each level above you:



2h Melee / Ranged / Soft Cap on Dual Wield



Same level = 5% hit (21 hit rating)

+1 level = 5.5% hit (23 hit rating)

+2 levels = 6% hit (25 hit rating)

+3 levels = 9% hit (37 hit rating)

+4 levels = 11% hit (45 hit rating)

+5 levels = 13% hit (53 hit rating)



Spell Hit - required to never have a spell 'miss'. Does not affect resists.



Same level = 4% hit (13 hit rating)

+1 level = 5% hit (17 hit rating)

+2 levels = 6% hit (20 hit rating)

+3 levels = 17% hit (69 hit rating)

+4 levels = 28% hit (114 hit rating)

+5 levels = 39% hit (158 hit rating)



I haven't checked these out yet but it seems to be a rough guide at least. As you can see, it's a LOT fucking harder for your casters to be effective when fighting higher level enemies.



-X



P.S. Yes these values are for PvE not PvP.

 

[xxMDMA]

with the gear and enchants i find on wowhead, i will end up at 67 hit rating, i guess that will be enough for atleast getting skinning to 250 alone.



thanks for the values x

 

[Lómion]

Basically spell casters do not work in higher level pve encounters like; RFD, SM - Armory&Cathedral. Since besides the insane amount of misses; you will also be have a roughly 75% resists at some points. Besides that; the maximum amount of hit chance that a spell caster can obtain is roughly 13%, while the hit miss chance increases by roughly 11% per mob level for more that are more then 2 levels above your own..



As for hit rating on melee classes:



Total hit rating (chance) for leather classes:

Alliance: 75 (18,5%)

Horde: 73 (18%)

Mail wearers (with the leather BoA chest):

Alliance: 76 (18,8%)

Horde: 74 (18,3%)

Druids and hunters, rogues and warriors with the heirloom bow:

Alliance: 77 (19%)

Horde: 75 (18,5%)

(1 hit makes .247% melee chance)



Rogues can gain an additional 5% hit if they spec Precision.

Hunters with Focused Aim gain another 3%.

Feral druids can spec with Primal Precision which gives them 10 expertise rating, but I really have no idea how that can compensate back to their damage.





Those are the maximal attainable amounts.*



And the exact amounts of miss chance versus a mob can be found by using the following formula (for melee classes only):



miss chance according tot wowwiki:

up till a difference between weapon and defense skill of 10

- with two-hander: 5% + (Defense Skill - Weapon Skill)*.04%

- with dual-wielding: 24% + (Defense Skill - Weapon Skill)*.04%

from a difference between 10 and above

- with two-hander: 6% + (Defense Skill - Weapon Skill - 10)*.4%

- with dual-wielding: 25% + (Defense Skill - Weapon Skill - 10)*.4%





Where in your weapon skill is : 145 (5x29)

And the defense skill of the mob : 5x(the level)

Once you calculated the miss chance you divide that amount with 0.247 to find the amount of rating that you need.

Your special attacks always have an additional 8% chance of hitting.



As an example: you want to kill Herod in SM which is a level 37 elite mob. Then his defense skill would be 185(37x5) which leads to a miss chance of 22% for 2h/ranged attacks for the soft hit cap. This would mean that you would have to have 89 hit rating (22/0.247) to make all your swings/shots hit, you would need 57 hit rating (14/0.247) so that all your specials hit.



Nice to add here as well; alliance can always have a slight advantage if you run in a group with a dreanei.



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[ITEM]Band of Elven Grace[/ITEM] 4 hit rating

[ITEM]Robe of the Dragon Slayer[/ITEM] 2 hit rating

Horde only item:

[ITEM]Divining Crystal[/ITEM] 1 hit rating

Mutual items:

[ITEM]Amulet of Truesight[/ITEM] 11 hit rating

[ITEM]Spidersilk Drape[/ITEM] 4 hit rating

[ITEM]Simple Pearl Ring[/ITEM] 4 hit rating

[ITEM]Lavishly Jeweled Ring[/ITEM] 2 hit rating

Enchants:

[ITEM]Scroll of Enchant Boots - Surefooted[/ITEM] 10 hit rating

Buffs:

[ITEM]Elixir of minor accuracy[/ITEM] 10 hit rating

Leather:

[ITEM]Stained Shadowcraft Tunic[/ITEM] 9 hit

[ITEM]Deviate Scale Belt[/ITEM] 3 hit

[ITEM]Stained Shadowcraft Spaulders[/ITEM] 5 hit

Mail:

[ITEM]Barbaric Iron Shoulders[/ITEM] 6 hit

Druids only

[ITEM]Aquarius Belt[/ITEM] 5 hit

Gloves:

[ITEM]Scroll of Enchant Gloves - Precise Strikes[/ITEM]

Weapons:

[ITEM]Charmed Ancient Bone Bow[/ITEM] 2 hit

 

[xxMDMA]

nice list.



just made a chardev with hit/expertise gear and minor accuracy pot:

chardev seven . character planner . skinner



65 hit, 6 expertise. that should work a few levels.

 

[Cptheal]

Omg ma keys!!!!