Novascotia
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Asterri said:
I'm sorry, but you can't beat Thirk at math.
Hidden Mp5 on Devout Aurastone Hammer
- Thread starter Rofan
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I'm sorry, but you can't beat Thirk at math.
Crilicilyn
OG
*nods*
and yeah, the reason it shows you having an extra mp5 is simply because int gives mp5 too, just not as much as spirit.
and yeah, the reason it shows you having an extra mp5 is simply because int gives mp5 too, just not as much as spirit.
Crilicilyn
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but that spirit based regen affects mp5.
iaccidentallytwink
Guild Master
Novascotia said:
He beat me at memory though. I tend to forget that damage reduction doesn't use float values, it's integers so it won't reduce damage by less than an integer (therefore it has a minimum hit needed to take effect).
Final Verdict: RESILIENCE SUCKS!
Parfait
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Wow. I never really thought that about resilience, but makes perfect sense and why it works way better at high level. I'm going to have to rethink my WG trinket use on some of my twinks. I might go back to using trinketmenu to swap out again. I just love the look of [ITEM]Aged Pauldrons of The Five Thunders[/ITEM] on my shaman though to give those up. 
There is still the crit chance reduction. I'm not sure you guys are remembering that.
There is still the crit chance reduction. I'm not sure you guys are remembering that.
Asterri said:
the 4 int only increases mp5 OFSR at all, it increases regen, they are very different stats.
Also the point is that you do not get 60 mana from devout because we are talking about its use as a SP weapon which means that any mana on it is just a dead stat.
Asterri
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"the 4 int does not increase mp5 OFSR at all, it increases regen, they are very different stats."
I will admit that I didn't phrase it correctly...
Intellect has a small component affecting spirit-based regeneration, which may explain the constant with the "out of casting" mp5 shown on the tooltip. It does not explain the "in casting" mp5 shown in the initial photos, which is all mp5-based and not spirit based.
Mana regeneration - WoWWiki - Your guide to the World of Warcraft
"Also the point is that you do not get 60 mana from devout because we are talking about its use as a SP weapon which means that any mana on it is just a dead stat."
Actually, this whole thread was discussing the matter if it has a hidden stat - not talking about using this as a pure SP weapon. And honestly, researching this as much as possible, it may have a hidden stat of 1mp5 since there is no explanation on why the pictures show an additional 1mp5 in casting.
I will admit that I didn't phrase it correctly...
Intellect has a small component affecting spirit-based regeneration, which may explain the constant with the "out of casting" mp5 shown on the tooltip. It does not explain the "in casting" mp5 shown in the initial photos, which is all mp5-based and not spirit based.
Mana regeneration - WoWWiki - Your guide to the World of Warcraft
"Also the point is that you do not get 60 mana from devout because we are talking about its use as a SP weapon which means that any mana on it is just a dead stat."
Actually, this whole thread was discussing the matter if it has a hidden stat - not talking about using this as a pure SP weapon. And honestly, researching this as much as possible, it may have a hidden stat of 1mp5 since there is no explanation on why the pictures show an additional 1mp5 in casting.
Asterri said:
Actually i meant to say it only affects mana regen OFSR, ive changed it in my post above. My bad.
Asterri said:
Rofan posed a debate about whether Blessed Hammer of Grace will still be a BiS item if there is hidden mp5 on aurastone at the beginning of the thread
Blessed should only have been used BiS as a SP wep and spirit wep if aurastone didnt have mp5, thus quite obviously aurastone is now the better spirit wep so the debate is really now about Blesseds viability as a sp wep.hmmmm, MP5 gives you back mana when and out of casting though, it does both since it just gives you mana per 5 seconds.
its like the hunter BM talent that gives you back life per 10 seconds. may you be in or out of combat doesn't matter since it will give it to you anyway. so basically regen gives you out of combat regen and in combat regen if you get talents or abilities for it, but MP5 will give it back to you reguardless which makes MP5 a way better stats then intellect.
as for the resillience, resillience was all good before 3.2, but then they nerfed res and now 1 res gives off about 0.08% and thus resillience takes a shit load just to get that 1% less crit. to me since the nerf, res isn't worth it anymore.
man i remember when i had my priest with about 10% less chance to be critted and about 20% less adamage out of it, it was funny seeing people wonder whow come i was surviving their burst ! that is over though...too bad, it was fun !
its like the hunter BM talent that gives you back life per 10 seconds. may you be in or out of combat doesn't matter since it will give it to you anyway. so basically regen gives you out of combat regen and in combat regen if you get talents or abilities for it, but MP5 will give it back to you reguardless which makes MP5 a way better stats then intellect.
as for the resillience, resillience was all good before 3.2, but then they nerfed res and now 1 res gives off about 0.08% and thus resillience takes a shit load just to get that 1% less crit. to me since the nerf, res isn't worth it anymore.
man i remember when i had my priest with about 10% less chance to be critted and about 20% less adamage out of it, it was funny seeing people wonder whow come i was surviving their burst ! that is over though...too bad, it was fun !
ArthurianKnight said:
i fixed it for you there.
Kore, exactly what i said though, dont know why you'd be "fixing" it.
out of combat and out casting are different things, but it was just me nit picking
Agilitize
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Rofan said:This was brought to my attention about a month ago by Gracob..
The [ITEM]Devout Aurastone Hammer[/ITEM] seems to have 1mp5 just like [ITEM]The Blessed Hammer of Grace[/ITEM]
The picture below shows there is no Mp5 difference with either weapon on. BOTH WEAPONS HAVE THE SAME ENCHANT!
What do you guys think? This could make [ITEM]The Blessed Hammer of Grace[/ITEM] 100% useless!
You ruined my dancing session on wsg 2 days ago