Heirloom Items in Cataclysm

Zuty said:
Sounds like it, but I will need to see more about this before I can give my judgment on it. If it does work like FCs will be even huger walls of Stam.



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From what I've read... SP turns into Int, and as a tailor you (or you can hire an 80 to do this too) are able to reforge stats. Therefore, +19 int turns into +19 stam, since the [item]Inferno Robe[/item]'s item level is 40, throw another +150 hp with that.. 19 + 15 = 340 hp kiddies... Which is +20 hp than [item]Toughened Leather Armor[/item] with +100 hp



Brb, making a list of the op-stam gears.
 
canihascookie said:
From what I've read... SP turns into Int, and as a tailor you (or you can hire an 80 to do this too) are able to reforge stats. Therefore, +19 int turns into +19 stam, since the [item]Inferno Robe[/item]'s item level is 40, throw another +150 hp with that.. 19 + 15 = 340 hp kiddies... Which is +20 hp than [item]Toughened Leather Armor[/item] with +100 hp



Brb, making a list of the op-stam gears.
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Such a list would be interesting but when they first presented this at Blizzcon they stated that it would be limited, so one wouldn't be able to completely change all stats.
 
- Spell Power: Spell Power is being removed from items as well. Intellect will be improved so it provides mana and Spell Power.
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Honestly, I do not know if they are converting the items that have SP to INT or not. I am making a guess that they will because INT will provide SP.



[item]Gold-flecked Gloves[/item] would have +13 INT then, therefore, a tailor could reforge it and make it +13 stamina. 130 hp



[item]Blackened Defias Belt[/item] will provide 9 agility because 3.3 provides 2 ap per 1 agility. Therefore a leather worker could reforge it to give +9 stamina, 90 health.



[item]Serpent's Shoulders[/item], same thing with Defias Belt, +9 stamina, 90 hp.



[item]Gloves of the Fang[/item], same thing with Defias Belt, +5 stamina



I've moved on from stam stacking because 19 druid FCs are limited to cloth and leather, I've decided to take a look at other gear..



[item]Girdle of the Blindwatcher[/item], +8 int becomes +8 agility



[item]Armor of the Fang[/item] +8 str becomes +8 agility / int



[item]Smelting Pants[/item] +7 spirit becomes +7 agility / int



[item]Starsight Tunic[/item] +10 spirit becomes +10 agility / int



[item]Savage Trodders[/item] +9 stam becomes +9 str / int



[item]Cobrahn's Grasp[/item] +8 str becomes +8 stam / int



[item]Legionnaire's Leggings[/item] +5 spirit becomes +5 stam / int



[item]Sentry Cloak[/item] +4 agi becomes +4 str / int



[item]Silver-linked Footguards[/item] +3 str could become +3 int for paladins



[item]Deviate Scale Belt[/item] +5 agi becomes +5 int if druids and paladins want the extra hit.



[item]Leggings of the Fang[/item] +5 str becomes +5 int.







The list just goes on and on... I've stopped because I'm thinking everyone gets the point now that I listed about 15 different gear pieces.
 
Marystus said:
keep in mind Lucky Fishing Hat is ilevel 40, so I doubt the heirloom helms would rival its stats. They would be a nice place to pick up extra ap/sp tho
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some of the BoA items at 19 already trounce items up to level 40. blizz might make BoA warrior head gear that has like 8 stam, 8 strenght, 3 hit, 4 crit strike. IMO that would definitely rival a fishing hat.



look at the BoA caster items at 19. take the top 19 BoA staff and link me a ingame lvl-40 or below blue or epic staff on par with it stat wise (not melee DPS). BoA caster maces included, any BoA caster mace at lvl-19 trounces the lvl-35+ mace i used in the 29 bracket, even with 30SP vs 40SP enchants



i clicked on a level 8 player yesterday with a BoA staff, 5 int, 4 stam, 3 crit, 7 spellpower......i was like wow WTF! that is almost on par with old 19 BiS blues. LEVEL MA FACKIN EIGHT!



shoulders....already known, no need to explain



i won't dig into old blue posts by Blizz, but over all they have lied, and gone back on their words over and over. like BoA's would be equal or on par with dungeon blues of the same level. or that they would not be putting out BoA's to fill all slots.



IMO they should just go ahead and make BoA to fill all slots. add BoA hat, neck, wrist, hands, waist, legs, feet and be done with it.



makes life easier for my floater twinks, and will have to farm or buy nothing
 
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[item]Corsair's Overshirt[/item], next [item]Tunic of Westfall[/item] for da horde lawl :3
 
Hey, if they do come out with BoA helms, they better look better or as good as the [item]Lucky Fishing Hat[/item].
 
For an item that has a +19 stat, I don't think they will let you convert the whole 19 into the new stat. Just 1 or 2 points of it. It only let's you reduce the existing stat, not convert it completely.



I don't think the BOAs we are getting now will become obsolete, but I could be wrong. On the one hand, if they make better ones for those slots, liek chest and shoulders, then they would be way more powerful than anything you could get without an 80. I just think they will be adding new itens for the other slots, but you will have to make a level 85 to farm the trinkets for them.



On the other hand, that would mean that if you save up a whole lot of trinkets ahead of time, you could buy them without buying the expansion. They want everyone to buy each new expansion. That's why I'm surprised that they would release items for all of the slots. I thought they would just release a few more, and then they would have a few more expansions they could do, releasing a few more each expansion. At this rate, what will they do after the next expansion to force twinkers to buy the next one? More powerful BOAs would really upset game balance.



So what are the other possibilities? Maybe they will nerf the old BOAs. Maybe they will make all old BOAs become BOE, so you have to farm the new ones. Worst of all, maybe they will keep changing stats around, like they are changing mana to focus for hunters, but leave the old hunter BOAs still providing the now useless int stat.



I think the bottom line is, there has to be some kind of evil plan to put us on a gear grind so we can't just pay subscriptions, but have to buy each expansion to keep up. I have to imagine that Blizz is thinking far ahead of the next expansion.
 
I really don't think that EVERY BoA will be best in slot, look at the new ring, I know I would only get that for leveling up an alt, the stats are crap imo. Tunic of westfall will prolly be rogue BiS chest in cata too, so I'm not worried.
 
I would prob upgrade my account from vanilla wow-cata...and level from 1-80(mains 34 on latin american realm) if they made a boa musketeer hat with stats on par or better than that of the fishy hat, just sayin.
 
squidmagnet said:
I think the bottom line is, there has to be some kind of evil plan to put us on a gear grind so we can't just pay subscriptions, but have to buy each expansion to keep up. I have to imagine that Blizz is thinking far ahead of the next expansion.
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after the comments they made about twinking, caring less about twink/empty BGs saying more or less that there wasn't enough to support it or as large as was perceived to begin with, etc. i really can't see them focusing energy for just 19 bracket, and limited action in 29 and 39 which roll mostly only on three single battlegroups US overall.



BoA floater twinks will piss on Blizz's wheaties, infact already are! :eek: the trend is getting bigger. with all slots BoA's coming it will be easier to XP BG PVP float to the level you want, delete, reroll, and start over at 10 again. some players are already rolling multiple floaters to cover several brackets. it's already happening, coming to a theater near you soon:D



the BoA's already in place make this easy, any from expansions would just be more icing, to top that the guild BoA gear will be coming next expansion to fill all slots. curious if this requires expansion to use?
 
Good and bad IMO, bad because we will all be geared exactly the same without the complications of quests, and good (and this is just me) because with everyone being geared exactly the same, we can actually see who are the good twinks and who are just coming along for the ride, as they say, skill beats gear.
 
From the limited information we know about reforging. You can only convert stats to other stats not already on the item. This conversion will not be a 1-1 conversion and will speculatively be a 2-1 or 3-1 conversion. (eg. The 12 stam on AGM might be able to be converted to 6 of a different stat). And we don't know that spellpower will be changed to int in a 1-1 either.
 
canihascookie said:
Honestly, I do not know if they are converting the items that have SP to INT or not. I am making a guess that they will because INT will provide SP.



[item]Gold-flecked Gloves[/item] would have +13 INT then, therefore, a tailor could reforge it and make it +13 stamina. 130 hp



[item]Blackened Defias Belt[/item] will provide 9 agility because 3.3 provides 2 ap per 1 agility. Therefore a leather worker could reforge it to give +9 stamina, 90 health.



[item]Serpent's Shoulders[/item], same thing with Defias Belt, +9 stamina, 90 hp.



[item]Gloves of the Fang[/item], same thing with Defias Belt, +5 stamina



I've moved on from stam stacking because 19 druid FCs are limited to cloth and leather, I've decided to take a look at other gear..



[item]Girdle of the Blindwatcher[/item], +8 int becomes +8 agility



[item]Armor of the Fang[/item] +8 str becomes +8 agility / int



[item]Smelting Pants[/item] +7 spirit becomes +7 agility / int



[item]Starsight Tunic[/item] +10 spirit becomes +10 agility / int



[item]Savage Trodders[/item] +9 stam becomes +9 str / int



[item]Cobrahn's Grasp[/item] +8 str becomes +8 stam / int



[item]Legionnaire's Leggings[/item] +5 spirit becomes +5 stam / int



[item]Sentry Cloak[/item] +4 agi becomes +4 str / int



[item]Silver-linked Footguards[/item] +3 str could become +3 int for paladins



[item]Deviate Scale Belt[/item] +5 agi becomes +5 int if druids and paladins want the extra hit.



[item]Leggings of the Fang[/item] +5 str becomes +5 int.







The list just goes on and on... I've stopped because I'm thinking everyone gets the point now that I listed about 15 different gear pieces.
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I didnt consider most of these, good call, although im not entierly sure that reforging will allow you to change all the stats, or if they do in 1:1 ratios. I imagine reforgin will be something like "change 50% of the intellect into stamina that equals 80% of the intellect lost" Still fun tho, and i might be wrong.
 
Would guild boas stats depend on how good the guilds progress is at endgame etc?

This would just make people want to buy their way into good raid guilds for perfect boas
 
Won't mind it at all - would get full warlock gear and go straight to 80 through PvP. =3
 
encorebroz said:
Would guild boas stats depend on how good the guilds progress is at endgame etc?

This would just make people want to buy their way into good raid guilds for perfect boas
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Blizzard said it would depend on a lot of things like professions, amount of dungeons done etc.
 
Shazzrah said:
Blizzard said it would depend on a lot of things like professions, amount of dungeons done etc.
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This ^^^



And I would assume achievements will play a pretty big role in this.
 
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