Bop
Remember the Treeline
I was responding to someone saying that CoE should never be used by a warlock. CoE is extremely powerful as a support spell - I was frankly shocked that anyone would suggest that it shouldn't be used.
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I was responding to someone saying that CoE should never be used by a warlock. CoE is extremely powerful as a support spell - I was frankly shocked that anyone would suggest that it shouldn't be used.
inoobupro
Banned
it was ok before back when It was provided a 25% casting reduction, they nerfed it to 10%.....really..what is 10%...It is just too low, unless they revert it back im still adamant that warlocks should just dps.
and like Im totally clueless and dont know how to play a pure support class that dies to rogues everytime they decide to do their rogue stuff, and al li can be is some hunters or rogues b#$$$ only useful for CC, offheals, shields and leap of faith...
you know I also used to have Dispel Magic on my toolbar on my spriest...then I figured out its useless unless arenas and id rather refresh another SW: pain for insta damage....
and like Im totally clueless and dont know how to play a pure support class that dies to rogues everytime they decide to do their rogue stuff, and al li can be is some hunters or rogues b#$$$ only useful for CC, offheals, shields and leap of faith...
you know I also used to have Dispel Magic on my toolbar on my spriest...then I figured out its useless unless arenas and id rather refresh another SW: pain for insta damage....
Allybeboba
Legend
I know... I responded to your "no" expecting that everyone had read this thread in it's entirety, and that it reiteration of the quote that you quoted was not necessary. They do, don't they?
I comprehend that you understand the " ins and outs" of the bracket. No personal attack was intended. It is not my style.
/cheers
Sweetsidney
Allybeboba
Legend
I think you are underestimating the power of curse of enfeeblement. In think many people underestimate it.
Curse of Enfeeblement - Spell - World of Warcraft
Sweetsidney
Bop
Remember the Treeline
It's currently an instant cast no-target limit Cast Slow - 10% is still enough to mess with healers.
If you consider that a fully haste stacked healer will have around 10% haste base, you're completely eliminating all of their gear.
For a healer that doesn't have more than 10% haste, you're actually causing him to go into the negative. I mean for an RDruid for instance, we're talking going from a 1.5 second Regrowth to a 1.65 - which, as an Rdruid main, would be mindnumbingly painful to deal with during times of heavy DPS.
In Arenas, it is absolutely a necessity to keep up on enemy casters. I guess in BGs it isn't as important to do so, but healers should be blanketed at all times. It's just too OP not to mess with their healing. I mean it makes fear interrupts easier and lowers HPS as a whole.
inoobupro
Banned
Back in the day when Curse of enfeeblement was named Curse of Tongues and gave a 50% reduction to casting.... even 25% ..ok its fine and useable...
but .10%...Do yourself a favor and remove it off your toolbars, better to spam fear on another target or do damage.
lets recap the instants in this bracket. Holy Shock, Word of Glory, Riptide, Rejuvenation, PW:shield, and penance is channeled. Your curse does nothing against that.
Im sorry you just cant defend this spell as of right now, there are plenty of useless spells in this game like the shadow priests mind spike if you do not have the FDCL talent or a few useless warlock spells come to mind like health funnel( made sense before when you actually ran out of mana) . Life tap too.
whats up with people so obsessed with haste up in this place
you literally gain like 0.15 seconds .On a p2p they actually gain like 15-20% increased cast/attack speed ..but f2p
but .10%...Do yourself a favor and remove it off your toolbars, better to spam fear on another target or do damage.
lets recap the instants in this bracket. Holy Shock, Word of Glory, Riptide, Rejuvenation, PW:shield, and penance is channeled. Your curse does nothing against that.
Im sorry you just cant defend this spell as of right now, there are plenty of useless spells in this game like the shadow priests mind spike if you do not have the FDCL talent or a few useless warlock spells come to mind like health funnel( made sense before when you actually ran out of mana) . Life tap too.
whats up with people so obsessed with haste up in this place
you literally gain like 0.15 seconds .On a p2p they actually gain like 15-20% increased cast/attack speed ..but f2p 
Allybeboba
Legend
Back in the day when Curse of enfeeblement was named Curse of Tongues and gave a 50% reduction to casting.... even 25% ..ok its fine and useable...
but .10%...Do yourself a favor and remove it off your toolbars, better to spam fear on another target or do damage.
lets recap the instants in this bracket. Holy Shock, Word of Glory, Riptide, Rejuvenation, PW:shield, and penance is channeled. Your curse does nothing against that.
Im sorry you just cant defend this spell as of right now, there are plenty of useless spells in this game like the shadow priests mind spike if you do not have the FDCL talent or a few useless warlock spells come to mind like health funnel( made sense before when you actually ran out of mana) . Life tap too.
whats up with people so obsessed with haste up in this place
It is an instant cast., and you can spread it around to different targets. Warlocks are best played as support roles, not front line fighters. That is why we don't see that many of them in this bracket. No one wants to play a "support "class. They are too complicated for many people. You can't be a fairly skilled warlock and survive. You have to be good, skilled player to survive, unlike some of the other classes.
As far as haste, I do not run with haste, but if there happens to be a shadowpriest in my group that 10% is awesome. My healing spell drops from 1.5 casts to 1.35. I get an extra tick of riptide as well.
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inoobupro
Banned
except these are actually legit
I admit I like to do a little trolling every now and then but this is the truth...I didn't really troll this thread or hunters thread at all, ppl turned it into one tho
you don't need to gimp your 3 button warlock classes into 4 button classes or make them more complicated than they really are.
I admit I like to do a little trolling every now and then but this is the truth...I didn't really troll this thread or hunters thread at all, ppl turned it into one tho
you don't need to gimp your 3 button warlock classes into 4 button classes or make them more complicated than they really are.
Revlo
A Sentient Pyramid
Just putting in a little request to hear more from Up on class tactics here. I'm sure having time is a consideration. Anyway, I found this very useful. It especially got me thinking of more efficient ways to fake-cast with any class in general. Without being involved in arenas, I miss out on a lot of the finer points of strategy.
Allybeboba
Legend
When lots of rogues are around. I fake cast by hearthing. Long cast time, and it's graphics appear the same as a heal on a shaman Gotten many a player that way. Even if you do get nature locked as a shaman you can heal pot, fire totem and flame shock or use your racial. Plenty to do.
/cheers
Sweetsidney...
Revlo
A Sentient Pyramid
Cool, cool. You know I haven't actually tried that one. I was under the impression that the hearth cast broke on damage, but maybe I'm just imagining that. It would be nice to have a sacrifice cast that visually looks like a heal.
Dirtyauction
rank 1 holyswordsman
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Kiri
Guest
GCD on CoE is also only 50% making it even more useful combined with a focus/mouseover macro
The Saint
I won't like you
Ppl shouldn't listen to that Inoob dude
you made it a little to long mate. fixed it for ya.
Fael
Believer
Yeah hearthing does indeed break on damage. Are you hearthing while a rogue is on you? It should break instantaneously.