Green BoEs from rares are now scaling

[Sbp]

Plate 26's dropped in Legion aswell. There's also lvl 13-16-21 versions.

Maybe more, can't recall.

 

[DoByG]

Оk, here are my findings all. Took me 2 days but I think I figured it out.

Mobs that were added to the game in classic are dropping loot that is not scaled. Mobs added post-WoTLK are dropping scaled loot. Haven't found any TBC / WoTLK added mobs to test those 2 expansions, so not sure where exactly the line of scaling is placed. This is not intended by any means, so moving this thread to the Royal League may be a thing to consider.

Edit: Scaled gear has (min zone lvl - 1) ilvl and (min zone lvl - 4) lvl req.

What that means:
- low lvl characters can farm a few mogs from the rares added post WoTLK, which do drop scaled items (ilvl 19, lvl req 16) in 15-60 and 20-60 zones.
- low lvl characters can farm ilvl 24-25 green BoEs, which do drop from Classic rares in the 15-60 and 20-60 zones. Those items are better than dungeon drops and in most cases BiS for waist/gloves slots.
- (theory) any lvl characters can farm low lvl blue BoEs from Classic added mobs in dungeons. (If there are any pre TBC mobs in SFK, there is a good chance they will be dropping the unscaled ilvl 24 version of SF, because their loot table should work just like the chest's once)

 

[Pericles]

where is a good (non dungeon) place to farm lvl 20 greens, i just keep getting lvl 13 greens.

 

[Mythic Al]

where is a good (non dungeon) place to farm lvl 20 greens, i just keep getting lvl 13 greens.

Fatal Treasure Chest Hunting Guide!

I also have the guide listed in my Signature. It covers both Dungeons and World Zones, so just scroll down to the 2nd post.

 

[Delailinda]

Hi,

today I dropped,
ilvl 25 from https://www.wowhead.com/npc=14223/cranky-benj
ilvl 19 from https://www.wowhead.com/npc=50812/arae

Both items dropped on the same character, lvl 20 druid (f2p).

 

[Opek2]

Does this only matter with rare mobs?

 

[ChainSOV]

is there a list somewhere which rares are classic and wich new?

all the world drops I got so far were scaled versions ilvl 22 lvl19req

 

[DoByG]

is there a list somewhere which rares are classic and wich new?
all the world drops I got so far were scaled versions ilvl 22 lvl19req

You can check when a rare was added in wowhead (right next to the image of the mob on its page).

ilvl 22 lvl 19 req are strange, they dont seem to go with the `Scaled gear has (min zone lvl - 1) ilvl and (min zone lvl - 4) lvl req` rule. Can you post a screenshot and let me know which rare did they drop from?

 

[ChainSOV]

I was talking about world drops from normal mobs, not from rares, but was quoting from memory.
Seems like I have misplaced ilvl and lvlreq
Just got another green item again from a lvl25 normal Hyena in Southern Barrens.
ilvl19 lvl16req
so its the same 3 lvl difference as with new scaled rares or quest rewards

unfortunately it would take a while to farm old rares, they seem to prefer to drop cloth for me and often lvl15req ilvl20 or also ilvl26 lvl21 req

 

[Sairentokira]

Does anybody know whether it scales differently depending on your level, for example

Killing lvl 23-26 rares on a 19 usually grants lvl 17 BOEs
Ive heard instances where people make a character, level it to 24 and farm the same rares for lvl 19 scaled gear.

Any legitimacy to this method or is it just all hearsay?
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Scaling can feel confusing when the usual level 30-40 greens are scaling below level 17.
If I can somehow get this scaled to 19 I think it will hit a solid +9 Intellect, possibly making it BiS for intellect pures.

 

[Mythic Al]

As a level 20 player, the scaling on Uncommon BoE Armor dropped from mobs only comes in two flavors:
1. Requires level 13, has Item level 16.
2. Requires level 16, has Item level 19.

 

[Delailinda]

As a level 20 player, the scaling on Uncommon BoE Armor only comes in two flavors:
1. Requires level 13, has Item level 16.
2. Requires level 16, has Item level 19.

To be more precise, there are few boe items that require lvl 20 without scaling and they are ilvl 25 and few vendor items that require lvl 20 and are ilvl 25 too.

 

[Mythic Al]

To be more precise, there are few boe items that require lvl 20 without scaling and they are ilvl 25 and few vendor items that require lvl 20 and are ilvl 25 too.

Well, yeah, but I was only referring to drops from mobs.

 

[ChainSOV]

It seems that there are rares which although they were added in vanilla, were modified later at some point so that they count as new rares and drop scaled loot.
Either that or the level difference plays a role.
Lvl 27 Silithid Harvester and Azzere both dropped scaled loot for me (lvl20)

 

[Mythic Al]

This one dropped from the purple-colored Hydra Rare https://www.wowhead.com/npc=3398/gesharahan outside of the Wailing Caverns Cave-System. (Not to be confused with the red-colored Hydra Rare: https://www.wowhead.com/npc=3652/trigore-the-lasher that sits inside the Wailing Caverns Cave-System, just next to the actual Instance Entrance.)

 

[ChainSOV]

thx, so far
Takk, Razorsnout, Swiftmane, Humar, Rocklance, Gesharahan, Rathtalon drop unscaled loot in north barrens.
There are some slight anomalies in loot tables on some of them.
Rocklance dropped Greenweave Robe
Rathtalon dropped https://www.wowhead.com/item=9811/fortified-bracers
Razorsnout dropped https://www.wowhead.com/item=6564/shimmering-cloak
which are normally not on their loot tables on wowhead

The very last boss of Wailing Caverns dropped unscaled https://www.wowhead.com/item=9812/fortified-cloak

 

[Hazeman]

Azshara drops looted by 20' roug

 

[Mythic Al]

thx, so far
Takk, Razorsnout, Swiftmane, Humar, Rocklance, Gesharahan, Rathtalon drop unscaled loot in north barrens.
There are some slight anomalies in loot tables on some of them.
Rocklance dropped Greenweave Robe
Rathtalon dropped https://www.wowhead.com/item=9811/fortified-bracers
Razorsnout dropped https://www.wowhead.com/item=6564/shimmering-cloak
which are normally not on their loot tables on wowhead

The very last boss of Wailing Caverns dropped unscaled https://www.wowhead.com/item=9812/fortified-cloak

https://www.wowhead.com/npc=3654/mutanus-the-devourer always drops an unscaled Uncommon BoE.

 

[Soda4Matt]

Are Phoenix pants lvl 20 10/10 worth anything?

 

[Opek2]

Are Phoenix pants lvl 20 10/10 worth anything?

Well they’re made by a tailor, so the cost of mats..