Get the Fudge out GY Farmers

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GY farming does realistically win games best even more than doing objectives will. Nothing de-motivates players and causes them to stop trying like dying 3seconds after you rez continuously.
 
I'm not caught up in lofty ideals at all.

If a 24 premades with his friends, all BiS and decently skilled. They can win the game just as fast, probably faster, than they can by controlling the graveyard. It would be easy too. There's no point in graveyard containing in the F2P bracket if you could win just as fast, and just as easily.

I don't mind 24s at all, but I just mind the ones like you who tend to justify this control tactic in a bracket where the main playerbase isn't even geared well enough to put up a fight against a good 24 premade.

I understand there aren't any other accessible low level brackets for you guys. 19's dead, 29's dead, 39's dead, 10's dead, 1s are boring, but just understand that unlike the other brackets, if we're getting farmed by a premade, we're getting farmed, we can't just break out of it like in the other brackets.

Well, pay your $15 and you'll stand a better chance of breaking out.
 
Well, pay your $15 and you'll stand a better chance of breaking out.

I do. I just have fun playing my F2P with my friends in a slightly competitive environment trying to not get farmed by people who spend their $15 dollars to farm people all day.

Even then, not all people can pay the $15 dollars to play the game and have been playing this bracket far longer than any 24 has.

Correct me if I'm wrong, considering I barely played 19, but didn't GY containment help kill that bracket's queues? If you keep that up, all of the good F2Ps will leave and there will be no point in playing 24 because you can farm HKs in Exp on 10-14 faster and easier.
 
GY containing is fine to an extent where the reason to it is to quickly finish the game. GY containing is usually not happening when there is good players on both sides. And to GY farm is OK in my opinion just to finish the game but not to keep the flag at 2 caps and wait for timer to go out.
 
Gulbon,
Rephrasing here:
So what you are saying is that those gy farming with a large if not unbeatable advantages to get their rocks off, or get some enjoyment pwning some lesser item level averaged toon, or as a time killer, might help discourage the foundation of this bracket to stop supporting the bracket with the numbers to get 24/7 games, right?

<sarcasam> Sounds real competitive to me. </sarcasam> Those that are looking for competition have joined their F2P peers to enable competitive games. I think you are onto something.
 
I do. I just have fun playing my F2P with my friends in a slightly competitive environment trying to not get farmed by people who spend their $15 dollars to farm people all day.

Even then, not all people can pay the $15 dollars to play the game and have been playing this bracket far longer than any 24 has.

Correct me if I'm wrong, considering I barely played 19, but didn't GY containment help kill that bracket's queues? If you keep that up, all of the good F2Ps will leave and there will be no point in playing 24 because you can farm HKs in Exp on 10-14 faster and easier.

Good f2p's are nearly as easy to farm as jaja's, so if they leave, so be it.
 
<sarcasam> Sounds real competitive to me. </sarcasam> Those that are looking for competition have joined their F2P peers to enable competitive games. I think you are onto something.

What does sarcasam mean?
 
Good f2p's are nearly as easy to farm as jaja's, so if they leave, so be it.

And once the good F2Ps leave, all there will be are Jajas. There aren't enough Jajas to keep the games rolling 24/7. Queues would reduce to maybe 30 minutes-1 hour.
And once Jajas start to realize what's up, they too will leave.

Although there will always be a supply of F2Ps for you to wrongly do your sugarcoated farming against, that supply will dwindle and dwindle down and down and people will barely queue at all.

What's the point of playing to win if you're just going to farm every game? There's no variety. It gets boring.
 
And once the good F2Ps leave, all there will be are Jajas. There aren't enough Jajas to keep the games rolling 24/7. Queues would reduce to maybe 30 minutes-1 hour.
And once Jajas start to realize what's up, they too will leave.

Although there will always be a supply of F2Ps for you to wrongly do your sugarcoated farming against, that supply will dwindle and dwindle down and down and people will barely queue at all.

What's the point of playing to win if you're just going to farm every game? There's no variety. It gets boring.

What if I told you I didn't care?
 
We might not believe you since you are defending against what Gulbon has stated. ;P

I implied that I don't care about numbers dwindling, and that in no way was a defense against what Gulbon stated.

Next?
 
Eventually F2P twinks will stop queuing and play only arenas, quit F2P altogether, quit F2P And go P2P to go to a less annoying bracket, or PVE, go back to their P2P and make a 24, or Upgrade to P2P and make a 24... The the 20-24 bracket will be renamed the 24 bracket with a trickle of 20's. Only thing that keeps me playing Is because I'm working on a pet ret project for next expansion. "GY containment" isn't healthy for the bracket. But we can't NOT stop it, and as some person said if you cannot beat them, join them. Most choose to join them when the farming is good and then what? Sorry OP, but you are going up the creek without a paddle when concerning GY farming, or just general asshatery. Hearts in the right place, but no one will ever listen to someone if they don't have to.
 
While i dont think that'll happen i'm pretty sure this bracket would die if it did. The only reason 24's are here is for the easy games. This if LFR pvp. This is where paids come when they cant clear "normal" mode pvp. The sad thing is all the other good brackets have pretty much died off and drained into this one as a result. Stay cheesy~

Even though this bracket is the worst that has ever existed competition wise, comparing this to pve makes me want to puke.

Please don't ever do that ever again. ty
 
I dont want the numbers to dwindle.. Im not complaining about p2p vs f2p, Im just saying, you can win without demoralizing your opponents. There have been several games that I have lost but still enjoyed because the enemy team stayed out of the GY and helped their team, etc.
Edit #9000 : Ik this is the internet and all, and but treat other players the way you would like to be treated in pvp. Still kill eachother of course, but not force them into a corner for 10-15 minutes, making them wonder why playing a computer game isnt satisfying like most games should be. Id like to keep the wow population up.
 
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Don't worry, I have my /spit macro aimed at all GY farmers.

I bet you'd care once you stopped getting frequent queues. ;)

Stay bad.

I hardly even queue in this bracket, given the lack of any challenge, so the frequency of pops does not concern me. You are just painfully naive, and thus fun to direct posts at.

Stay irrelevant.
 
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