Gem Exploiting Morons

[Cìren]

reported for reporting

 

[notoriousthf]

Instead of telling everyone that your going to Report them for exploiting a possible positive, why don't you try and convince them that some good could come out of it? You know, use some social skills, try to explain reason not just state it as fact, weigh the people that listen to reason against those who wish to be unreasonable. Maybe some "best worst" or logic could be involved?

Oh wait that's not rational at all, carry on.

Reverse psychology. If it's a good thing for twinks blizzard will punish. If it's bad then blizzard will pretend to fix it soon. Remember all the buffs hunters and pallies got when blizzard promised balance.

The sockets will require a higher blacksmithing lvl, at which they were available. I doubt gems will be affected.

 

[Dorigon]

You do realize that rogues and hunters can get the gems too right? So what good is your entire argument about the gems helping against the burst in this bracket?

It is very good - 20 resilience provides WAY more defensive benefit than the offensive benefit provided by 20 agility.

Anyway, these gems are neat because they have the potential to decrease burst and address the lack of spell penetration.

 

[Karmaz]

You do realize that rogues and hunters can get the gems too right? So what good is your entire argument about the gems helping against the burst in this bracket?

What stops them from getting stam/resil gems?

"The needs of the many out weight the needs of the few"

How about turning the tables? Make the few the ones who take stats that increase burst, and the many the ones who take stats that decrease burst.

Oh wait that takes effort and a voice that is actually respect ed by the community.

And if i *explain* things nobody will listen. Im givin people the ultimatium, use it and get banned, or dont use it and continue playing.

If you are explaining things to rational people that actually want to help the bracket and they are not understanding then you might want to look upon yourself and question "Am I explaining well enough?" "What more can I do to positively effect the bracket" rather then this "omg it didnt work wtf this has been going on for too many days i cant handle it the bracket is ruined there is nothing to be done world is over" attitude.

Get a damn grip kid, because right now your LaF.

 

[Mnkey1]

Dory i agree but we both know theres going to be people that will take advantage of this for a negative purpose, as posted before. I would rather have this gone so theres not a chance of those douches havin more burst.

 

[Mnkey1]

Karmaz since a decent amout of people are disagreeing with you, why are you still trying to prove a point?

And before you wonder why theres not *real* response here, ive answered your post in earlier posts.

 

[Nakedplumber]

We could argue about this for a long time. However, Blizzard consider it as a bad thing so whatever you think these will be removed

 

[tence]

While I'm not advocating this exploit in any way, why is everyone getting so mad about it? Its the exact same thing (while very unbalanced) as past exploits. Shoulder enchants back in the day, still an exploit. The durability thing with leg armour or w/e it was, still an exploit. The mining bug, again still an exploit. This list goes on.

Twinking and exploiting goes hand in hand since, by definition, have the best gear possible at that level. As it stands right now these items make you achieve that. While this is not helping the already dying bracket making such a big deal about it will only draw more attention to it making the problem worse. If you have a problem with them don't q until the problem gets fixed. Simple as that. Besides people in EU have it worse. Bugged satchel gear AND this. Consider US lucky.

 

[Mnkey1]

Tence the main reason im against it is that the past leg enchants/shoulder enchants mainly ONLY helped prevent burst, why these can be used to prevent burst and to add on. I also dont want US to turn out like EU.

 

[Karmaz]

lol dude if anything these help the bracket no more spell resistance and less burst whats wrong with tht

You do realize that rogues and hunters can get the gems too right? So what good is your entire argument about the gems helping against the burst in this bracket?

As previously stated: Nothing prevents them from getting Stam/Resil Gems.

It is very good - 20 resilience provides WAY more defensive benefit than the offensive benefit provided by 20 agility.

Anyway, these gems are neat because they have the potential to decrease burst and address the lack of spell penetration.

I'm sorry but who else is disagreeing that actually has put more then one sentence together other than yourself?

Guess the tables have turned, ironic really. Isn't it?

 

[Dorigon]

I'd like for us to take a moment and congratulate Dasfizz for being a respectable tinker by dropping his BS.

 

[Mnkey1]

If you have ever played 70s, you will know that resil stacking gets OP. Dori knows this which puzzles me, of how resto shamans are practically unkillable there. I am tryin to prevent that from coming to 19s.

 

[Karmaz]

If you have ever played 70s, you will know that resil stacking gets OP. Dori knows this which puzzles me, of how resto shamans are practically unkillable there. I am tryin to prevent that from coming to 19s.

It will come nowhere near that, you have got to be kidding.

You are either completely lost or trolling your heart out.

 

[Dorigon]

If you have ever played 70s, you will know that resil stacking gets OP. Dori knows this which puzzles me, of how resto shamans are practically unkillable there. I am tryin to prevent that from coming to 19s.

Max resil in 19s is still nowhere near what it is in 70s.. I mainly like the gems for the spell pen, tho laziness prevents me from getting them myself.

 

[Mnkey1]

How do you know? If theres this bug now, what happens if more come along?

 

[notoriousthf]

While I'm not advocating this exploit in any way, why is everyone getting so mad about it? Its the exact same thing (while very unbalanced) as past exploits. Shoulder enchants back in the day, still an exploit. The durability thing with leg armour or w/e it was, still an exploit. The mining bug, again still an exploit. This list goes on.

Twinking and exploiting goes hand in hand since, by definition, have the best gear possible at that level. As it stands right now these items make you achieve that. While this is not helping the already dying bracket making such a big deal about it will only draw more attention to it making the problem worse. If you have a problem with them don't q until the problem gets fixed. Simple as that. Besides people in EU have it worse. Bugged satchel gear AND this. Consider US lucky.

Tell that to lv10s with double resilience gems. Sounds OP for unkillable healers and prot warriors.

 

[Karmaz]

How do you know? If theres this bug now, what happens if more come along?

Then we can deal with it when the issue arises, but for the mean time there isn't a single sane person that can honestly say " Less burst is worse for this bracket"

 

[Nakedplumber]

I'd like for us to take a moment and congratulate Dasfizz for being a respectable tinker by dropping his BS.

<3!

 

[iaccidentallytwink]

Tell that to lv10s with double resilience gems. Sounds OP for unkillable healers and prot warriors.

Because you can totally get both BoP dungeon gloves and bracers before level 15 amirite?

 

[Karmaz]

Tence the main reason im against it is that the past leg enchants/shoulder enchants mainly ONLY helped prevent burst, why these can be used to prevent burst and to add on. I also dont want US to turn out like EU.

Because you couldn't get AP/Crit Leg enchants or ZG shoulder Enchants or Naxx Enchants or Aldor/Scryer Enchants, right?

It's all about choices, let the community decide the path it wants to take, not your self righteous ignorant approach that strangles any form of "out of the box" thinking.

You're hurting more then you're helping whether you wish to accept it or not.