Junoo
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You're a paranoid one, aren't you xD
False Advertisement? Important Vet Question
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You're a paranoid one, aren't you xD
Selaya
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> implying the f2p/vet/whatever twink community`s sizable enough that Blizz would care about fucking us over.
They`ve got 99 problems, but Vets not resubbing should they ever rm that ain`t one.
They`ve got 99 problems, but Vets not resubbing should they ever rm that ain`t one.
clarification
Legend
Well, they cared enough to implement veteran accounts in the first place.
Selaya
Guest
I very doubt that we were the specific target group of that implementation.
Neon
I like to be fat shamed
Calm down
Faerondil
Legend
Exactly this.
Like Starters before them, veterans are meant to tempt people to sub/resub, not offer a persistent gaming experience.
yasueh
OG
They're far more likely to transition over to a F2P model with microtransactions, maybe keeping only the top few levels as subscription content. They're losing subscriptions because there are so many F2P games out there now, and their players are thinking "Why should I pay a subscription every month for WoW, even if I don't feel like playing it for the whole month, when I can play a whole load of F2P games instead and only pay what I want for them, and that's if I want to pay at all?"
To offer veteran and then swap all those accounts back to requiring subscriptions would undeniably be a case of bait-and-switch, and on top of losing subscribers, Blizzard would loose any and all credibility they may have for pulling such a low move, with everyone except their most blindly devoted fanboys.
They could do it, but they'd have to be bloody stupid to, as it would be suicide given the current gaming climate, which has seen practically every recent subscription game swap to F2P within a few years of release.
To offer veteran and then swap all those accounts back to requiring subscriptions would undeniably be a case of bait-and-switch, and on top of losing subscribers, Blizzard would loose any and all credibility they may have for pulling such a low move, with everyone except their most blindly devoted fanboys.
They could do it, but they'd have to be bloody stupid to, as it would be suicide given the current gaming climate, which has seen practically every recent subscription game swap to F2P within a few years of release.
Squidgy
Legend
I don't really think this is the case, I'd say people in general are just as willing to pay for a subscription as they were 10 years ago - as long as the game justifies the subscription fee. Lately I feel like they're getting worse at this, just look at 6.1. A "major content patch" with no goddamn content. It's downright insulting to the paying customers.
Faerondil
Legend
http://blizzardwatch.com/2015/02/05...arnings-call-wow-over-10-million-subscribers/
Yeah, just bleeding subs... f2p model around the corner
Yeah, just bleeding subs... f2p model around the corner
Kearbear
Legend
Hey if you're really worried about it then why not just make another account? You'd be changing some gear to make a vet anyways and it doesn't take that long to set up a new toon. I won't be altering my starter account for... lets call them sentimental reasons, but making a new account is so easy there's no real reason to change my old starter over.
Agnostic
Grandfathered
A minimum wage job is more than enough to pay for wow.
0.50$ a day is nothing to struggle over. Shine some shoes, idk.
Also, being starter is fine if you don't feel the need to pay, and like the challenge. But you seem to be worried more about the risk, when there is none, for vets.
0.50$ a day is nothing to struggle over. Shine some shoes, idk.
Also, being starter is fine if you don't feel the need to pay, and like the challenge. But you seem to be worried more about the risk, when there is none, for vets.
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Footman
Legend
Come on man, the only bishes you'll be banging are the dishes you're cleaning up after your mom makes you dinner,
kappa seriously though, they have the right to do stop the veteran accounts,..... But they just aren't going to do that.it's here to stay. Maaaaaaaaybe they'll find a way to disable enchants when you aren't subscribed, but your playable level 20 vets are not going anywhere.
Srs
Legend
Game is already mostly f2p with introduction of tokens. They aren't going backwards. What I do see, is them is easing starter restrictions once they get the gold economy under control. I mean what's the difference between $5 for a vet account and $0 for a starter account, in terms of revenue? It can't be much. At some point they're just going to give the base game away, and hope to sell gametime in the form of subscriptions and tokens.
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yasueh
OG
The thing is, veteran isn't just a one time thing. It also introduced a way for people to hop back and forth between subscribed/unsubscribed. If what I've seen in F2P games is anything to go by, there will be plenty of veterans happy to go back to subscription for a month or so to pick up a few items, or take advantage of things like realm or faction transfers. Not being locked into a subscription is a huge change to the game, because it means once endgame players have done all the content and are waiting for a new expansion, they don't just let their sub lapse and stop playing, instead they can play this bracket and keep in touch with their friends.
Level 20 twinking got opened up to a lot more players, so chances are this bracket is going to become even more popular.
Level 20 twinking got opened up to a lot more players, so chances are this bracket is going to become even more popular.
Footman
Legend
Exactly this. They have already made a lot of money off of those of us who are trying a couple veteran characters.
I think we almost need to recruit more players into this bracket from end game subscribers who aren't aware of twinking potential, and who might otherwise just quit completely, but would enjoy the odd bg.
Allybeboba
Legend
The game is not F2P because of the tokens. Someone paid for those tokens. Sure, Blizzard placed a few to kick start the system. But the largest portion of them were purchased and put up for sale by people that wanted gold. In the end, Blizzard got more money per 30 days of subscription time, 30% more.
Garrisons do not just happen to create the required amount of gold needed for the token by accident. It is by design. Blizzard has been planning this for quite some time.
It is quite diabolical actually. It requires you to either spend $$ to spend time in the game doing what you want to do or spend extra time in the game so you don't have to spend $$. Either way they win. People with extra money, but no extra time, will spend more money. And people with extra time, and no disposible income, will spend the rest of their lives addicted to Activision/Blizzard games.
Chew on that one next time you spend all damn weekend shut up in front of the computer.
/cheers
Sweetsidney
Garrisons do not just happen to create the required amount of gold needed for the token by accident. It is by design. Blizzard has been planning this for quite some time.
It is quite diabolical actually. It requires you to either spend $$ to spend time in the game doing what you want to do or spend extra time in the game so you don't have to spend $$. Either way they win. People with extra money, but no extra time, will spend more money. And people with extra time, and no disposible income, will spend the rest of their lives addicted to Activision/Blizzard games.
Chew on that one next time you spend all damn weekend shut up in front of the computer.
/cheers
Sweetsidney
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Daltert Moropi
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true, but that kind of depends upon the economy as to how supply(gold)/demand(money) would play out.
if they go to low, then they'll have a whole bunch of the community sitting on 20s due to not enough time for the badges to be in the auction house.
if they go to high, then people would want there money back because there's no buyers willing to part with their gold and would feel cheated because of they wasted $5 on the game.
either way, if they don't get the formula just right we might as well say it's a ftp game sooner than later.
if they go to low, then they'll have a whole bunch of the community sitting on 20s due to not enough time for the badges to be in the auction house.
if they go to high, then people would want there money back because there's no buyers willing to part with their gold and would feel cheated because of they wasted $5 on the game.
either way, if they don't get the formula just right we might as well say it's a ftp game sooner than later.