f2p mop warrior rant

limegreenalien

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So. i been testing out the ptr for the past few days on my warrior. seems to me like fury is the most terrible spec of all 3 now. its damage is so weak. i really hope fury gets buffed before the new talent trees go live or i will have grinded diamond hammer for no reason.
arms dps is far superior.
i have a lil over 2.2k hp in prot with my prot gear. and almost 2k in prot with my dps gear. prot is looking pretty nice as well, the only different in prot other then fury/arms is that execute seems to be hitting for about 20% less in prot. in fury/arm i hit like 1.5k-3.2k. and in prot is like 1.2k-2.2k with execute. keep in mind this is pve damage. havent got a chance to bg yet.

in arms/fury my health is like 1.8k in pure dps gear. up from like 1.4k regularly

hmm..oh yea.. no more heroic throw, shout, or rend >.<
i mean really i could do without having to shout every 2min, but man...no more rend or heroic throw...arggg....end of rant...
 
I'm really going to miss heroic throw and rend.
 
I'm not going to miss dropping combat to charge.
 
They give us a gap closer but take away our only snare, its looking kinda meh right now. We wont know until mop hits though.
 
Heh. people who play warriors are rather adept at adapting to the evolution of the battlefield. We have gone from having Hamstring (back before trials were permanent) to a snare if talented (Cataclysm Fury), to having no snare at all in upcoming mist. I added WoTLK because I used to trial twink back then, though it wasn't as fun to do as it is right now. anywho, I'm sure we will be able to still kick ass in the future, just need a little practice.
 
im thinking that the 12sec charge is probably going to be the best choice. at first i was thinking id be able to burst someone down pretty good with the 3sec charge but really 3 sec is nothing.it almost seems like the duration of normal charge. but yea, i cant wait til the new talent trees go live because right now it seems like my warrior does better damage than my hunter.
 
Its also fun to Solo Deadmines x3 I couldn't even get past the first boss on live xD
 
i can barely solo rfc in fury. i can beast threw deadmines and rfc in arms or prot. really disapointed how bad fury is nerfed atm. still lil bit till new talent trees go live though. hope they fix fury
 
limegreenalien said:
im thinking that the 12sec charge is probably going to be the best choice. at first i was thinking id be able to burst someone down pretty good with the 3sec charge but really 3 sec is nothing.it almost seems like the duration of normal charge. but yea, i cant wait til the new talent trees go live because right now it seems like my warrior does better damage than my hunter.
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3 Second stun can be really good in arenas.
 
Unfortunately the changes blizz made seems to mean they want to tunnel people into Arms anyway, unintentionally affecting the lower brackets as well. Besides, Wildstrike sucks anyway.... If I ever go fury in MoP I'll be using Heroic Strike in its place.
 
ExLegion said:
Unfortunately the changes blizz made seems to mean they want to tunnel people into Arms anyway, unintentionally affecting the lower brackets as well. Besides, Wildstrike sucks anyway.... If I ever go fury in MoP I'll be using Heroic Strike in its place.
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I'm fine with your rant. The question is: Can Arms out dps Ret in pvp?

PS: Warrior don't need Thaelrid's / Scales of Aku'mai, just get the BiS shield and stop looking bad.
 
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youakim said:
Ret is terrible in mop
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And they won't spam heals anymore every 200 damage with that low mana pool. Atleast Warriors will be the king/queen of melee again. Nice

As for fury, its needs baseline titans grip / single minded fury to make it more unique from Enh shamans. I know they are 2 totally different specs but still.... Who doesn't want dual BARs?!
 
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Franciska said:
I'm fine with your rant. The question is: Can Arms out dps Ret in pvp?

PS: Warrior don't need Thaelrid's / Scales of Aku'mai, just get the BiS shield and stop looking bad.
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Taking a shot at my character doesn't really affect me, just makes you look like a douche bro. This was before I knew the gearing list for the Warrior (I hadn't visited TI before). If I could change my leggings for something better I would, but I can't. So.... yeah. And don't bring up Foreman's leggings, I would rather die than sit in the Deadmines all day farming just to have the gloves drop.

Anyway Ret still does a little more decently, though with the nerfs then buffs in the new build, we will have to wait and see. The only thing holding Arms back is Rage gen. and that can be fixed slightly, if you can get a rage potion recipe. Too see how hard you will hit against other players, simply figure out how much you hit against same level targets, and then subtract 40% of that. So for instance, my Warrior can hit 300-400 MS, so what would be 40% of that? Same for Slam and Such.
 
Franciska said:
And they won't spam heals anymore every 200 damage with that low mana pool. Atleast Warriors will be the king/queen of melee again. Nice

As for fury, its needs baseline titans grip / single minded fury to make it more unique from Enh shamans. I know they are 2 totally different specs but still.... Who doesn't want dual BARs?!
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i agree completely. dual wielding BARs would be boss :)
 
ExLegion said:
Taking a shot at my character doesn't really affect me, just makes you look like a douche bro. This was before I knew the gearing list for the Warrior (I hadn't visited TI before). If I could change my leggings for something better I would, but I can't. So.... yeah. And don't bring up Foreman's leggings, I would rather die than sit in the Deadmines all day farming just to have the gloves drop.

Anyway Ret still does a little more decently, though with the nerfs then buffs in the new build, we will have to wait and see. The only thing holding Arms back is Rage gen. and that can be fixed slightly, if you can get a rage potion recipe. Too see how hard you will hit against other players, simply figure out how much you hit against same level targets, and then subtract 40% of that. So for instance, my Warrior can hit 300-400 MS, so what would be 40% of that? Same for Slam and Such.
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ive been hitting about the same with MS on my warrior. but slam seems to hit for 700-800 quite frequently. in dungeon i really dont have any rage issues either, i actually can max out my rage rather fast and can spam like 3 slams pretty frequently. i dont have a retadin though, hows the dmg output on them so far?
 
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