Experience jump?
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solvogero
Legend
somehow either we're not having the same conversation or we're saying the same thing differently just for the sake of confrontation. you said "[font=trajan, tahoma, arial, verdana, tahoma, sans-serif]IMHO on trial account you wont gain experience at 20 and thus not trigger leveling even if you already had enough experience to go to 21 " [/font]
[font=trajan, tahoma, arial, verdana, tahoma, sans-serif]so I said "[/font][font=trajan, tahoma, arial, verdana, tahoma, sans-serif]...then i wouldn't have 700 xp @20 (the excess when I dinged carried over)....which is why the curious are curious. "[/font]
[font=trajan, tahoma, arial, verdana, tahoma, sans-serif]I HAVE 700XP @20, not only WOULD I...but i DO[/font][font=trajan, tahoma, arial, verdana, tahoma, sans-serif], which is why people are wondering if it'll work. they're wondering about the carry-over and how far it'll stretch. No one knows if this has ever been done (or tried and denied) on a f2p or p2p account.[/font]
[font=trajan, tahoma, arial, verdana, tahoma, sans-serif]if i couldn't get xp at 20, then i'd have 0 or 1 xp, not 700. i hit lvl 20, the bar reset, then the remaining 700 was applied.[/font]
[font="trajan, tahoma, arial, verdana, tahoma, sans-serif"]​hence the curiosity.[/font]
solvogero
Legend
don't think the first or second method was ever attempted. 3rd was, which was an exploit, and it was fixed by the time he tried.
Aradiel
Legend
Much like many of the things started here, there was a lot of talk and zero practical result. The exploit would have probably jumped a level 1 passed 20. The problem is the other methods will cut it so close that you will need to level a 19 to just before 20 and then rely on a bit of luck from various outside factors you have no control over. Also, they can only be done during CtA weekend.
All of that means there's a lot of setting up involved beforehand, and so far no actual attempts have been made. Again, while I still think you'll just end up with the most experienced F2P 20 around, I still consider this worth trying, if for no other reason, just to find out.
All of that means there's a lot of setting up involved beforehand, and so far no actual attempts have been made. Again, while I still think you'll just end up with the most experienced F2P 20 around, I still consider this worth trying, if for no other reason, just to find out.
iaccidentallytwink
Guild Master
AFAIK the bug only worked on EU, so I was never able to replicate it.
I am no longer actively working on it, but I will be attempting a method soon and report back with results.
Oh, we have a level 19 trial Warrior ready at 18XP from 20.
iaccidentallytwink
Guild Master
Aradiel
Legend
Hehe yeah, I zoned in mid game, didn't think you were going to attack, you did, wasted stun. Back and forth a few times, your hunter is Thirk? I got you, then I got another hunter and paladin combo on me. I never really got my bearings that match and didn't think it was worth continuing burning so many CDs in the first minutes.
iaccidentallytwink
Guild Master
Ilúvatar
OG
what I'm saying is this:
you gained the excess 700 xp at 19, not at 20
I assume you gain only one level at once
so you get to 20, with enough excess experience for 21, but you will not gain experience ever again, and the leveling to 21 will not trigger
you gained the excess 700 xp at 19, not at 20
I assume you gain only one level at once
so you get to 20, with enough excess experience for 21, but you will not gain experience ever again, and the leveling to 21 will not trigger
Omghax
OG
The theory that is being tested is that:
- You, in one event, gain (using 1200 for easy number math) 1200 XP.
- This XP gain event triggers a check of your level to see if you are eligible to gain a level.
- Based on this check you are eligible to gain 2 levels, which you do.
The theory against this is:
- You, in one event, gain (using 1200 for easy number math) 1200 XP.
- The XP gain event triggers a loop that runs 1 XP at a time checking to see if at the end of each iteration you are eligible to gain a level.
Basically, where the programmers smart enough to account for a massive enough XP gain right before "MAX" level that would trigger two level gains.
This all assumes that Trial accounts are NOT set to "MAX" level of 20 in the same way that a BC account is set to 70, if that is the case there may be a hardcoded backstop to prevent the gain. Otherwise, as a F2P account is essentially a BC account, there is a potential for the jump.
Bob
solvogero
Legend
yup...and our fingers are crossed here because we wonder why they would bother putting the xp gain check at the front-end of 20. There's no point in adding the front-end stop if a catch-all back-end stop existed.
Ilúvatar
OG
I think the exp gain event handler does single level up when you pass the xp ceil for the actual level and doesn't check if you should gain 2 or more levels or so
coding it that way may look incomplete localy, but it is most resistant aganist bugs and exploits etc
but lets see how it turns out
coding it that way may look incomplete localy, but it is most resistant aganist bugs and exploits etc
but lets see how it turns out
Omghax
OG
So potentially, part of the function is to check currentLevel against MaxLevel.
I think that makes the most amount of sense, especially since we know that 1 XP gain event can trigger two level gains (this was confirmed by a P2P in random dungeon with RAF running right?)
That supports a loop function iterating through the XP gain point per point.
Bob
Ilúvatar
OG
I thik that trials are limited to 20 the same way as xp locked twinks are limited to their actual level, and that that was the true reason to disabling xp lock for trials (instead of rewriting the code that handles that), perhaps by unlocking xp again you could get the limit raised to 70