Nakedplumber
Tink
I'm working on a Troll shaman twink ( lvl 19 ) and I'm still not sure about what weapon I should use. For now I'm using McGowan with lifestealing and Razor Edge with 15 agi for the hit raiting.
Enh Shaman BiS weapon
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Bankbeauty
OG
I'm using gutterblade (yes, a bit fast) and McGowan OH for lava lash Burst. It really depend on your play. If you want a consistant dps or really bursty one. I don't know if Lifestealing is good seriously, yes it's bursty but I mean, if lifesteal don't proc on your burst (ES and Lava Lash) then it was pretty useless. I'm running with 2 15 Agi, 30AP Gogo!
RizenPhoenix
OG
Dual Wield BoA Maces with 15 Agility. That's what I use.
Trespasser
OG
Not to familiar with enh mechanics but I believe at lvl 19 you want slow weapons and they recieve 2AP from 1agi and 0AP from strength.
So that gives us a couple of options.:
15.8dps weapons:
Skeletal Club - Item - World of Warcraft : 2.6 speed and proc for 30damage
Stinging Viper - Item - World of Warcraft : 2.8 speed and proc for 31damage over 15sec (does not stack but keeps NE's and rogues from stealthing)
15.2dps weapons:
Guillotine Axe - Item - World of Warcraft : 2.7 speed and +3 agility (as said above the strength does nothing)
Razor's Edge - Item - World of Warcraft : 2.4 speed and +2hit (you already get 6% hit from dual wield passive so you are already capped against everything except NE's which require 1% more hit which is 2.11hit rating so 3 to cap)
15.0dps weapons:
http://www.wowhead.com/item=48716&lvl=19 : 2.8 speed, 3agi, 4stam, 2crit and 2 haste.
The next possible slow weapon whit a usefull stat has a lot lower dps so isn't that usefull.
My guess would be skeletal club main hand and stinging viper offhand would be a very good combination. I say viper in offhand because the dot does not stack so multiple procs is useless. And Flame lash deals OH damage. And Stinging viper is the hardest hiting weapon available and because that attack will be capped it allows you to have a high chance to put the dot on enemy's. However I think dual stinging viper or dual skeletal club and the use of the BoA mace will also be very viable setups. However I would try to avoid using double viper and I think 1 in OH is the best.
ps: I don't know the proc rate on stinging viper. However if it is below 1-2ppm other options might be better however it will still be the hardest hitting weapon.
So that gives us a couple of options.:
15.8dps weapons:
Skeletal Club - Item - World of Warcraft : 2.6 speed and proc for 30damage
Stinging Viper - Item - World of Warcraft : 2.8 speed and proc for 31damage over 15sec (does not stack but keeps NE's and rogues from stealthing)
15.2dps weapons:
Guillotine Axe - Item - World of Warcraft : 2.7 speed and +3 agility (as said above the strength does nothing)
Razor's Edge - Item - World of Warcraft : 2.4 speed and +2hit (you already get 6% hit from dual wield passive so you are already capped against everything except NE's which require 1% more hit which is 2.11hit rating so 3 to cap)
15.0dps weapons:
http://www.wowhead.com/item=48716&lvl=19 : 2.8 speed, 3agi, 4stam, 2crit and 2 haste.
The next possible slow weapon whit a usefull stat has a lot lower dps so isn't that usefull.
My guess would be skeletal club main hand and stinging viper offhand would be a very good combination. I say viper in offhand because the dot does not stack so multiple procs is useless. And Flame lash deals OH damage. And Stinging viper is the hardest hiting weapon available and because that attack will be capped it allows you to have a high chance to put the dot on enemy's. However I think dual stinging viper or dual skeletal club and the use of the BoA mace will also be very viable setups. However I would try to avoid using double viper and I think 1 in OH is the best.
ps: I don't know the proc rate on stinging viper. However if it is below 1-2ppm other options might be better however it will still be the hardest hitting weapon.
mikesparrow
OG
Ive been away from twinking at 19 for over a year, im wondering how effective is enhance as of 4.X is it viable?
Also in my opinion i would use the 2 boas 1h maces with 15 agi
Also in my opinion i would use the 2 boas 1h maces with 15 agi
Bankbeauty
OG
On a consistant Dps build, the speed of your MH doesn't change anything. Your OH is what you'll want to be HYPER slow. McGowan or Stinging Viper is what you'll want OH because their range dps and Speed are the same. I prefer Mcgowan for the crit/haste/agi/stam then an average proc, but as trespasser said, the proc is useful against stealth. For MH I'm running with Gutterblade because I think 0,5 Dps and 3 Stam>the Shadow bolt of Skeletal Club and I'm hit cap. But that's really up to you. There's multiple weapon set possible on an Enh Shammy, that's what so nice about it.
RizenPhoenix
OG
Enhance is the most viable spec for shaman now. We pretty much got nerfed "to the ground" in ghostcrawler speech. Lost all of our defensive abilities and our heals are the lowest of all 4 healers. Elemental can be decent if they are left alone to free cast on a target, but who in their right mind would allow that? I wouldn't even bother trying resto.
mikesparrow
OG
Cool thanks Rizen
Trespasser
OG
Since I forgot the BoA mace initially my post is a little bit change and I now thing BoA mace MH with stinging viper OH will be the best combination.
Spacegoát
Legend
i was thinking this on the bus - could a DW spell hance be viable? balanced between Agil and Int with a Stinging Viper in Oh and BoA(healer) Mace in MH with 22int on both?
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Nakedplumber
Tink
Thanks alot! Im probably gonna try your setup Trespasser Mcgowan MH and Stinging Viper OH but is there any enchant you would suggest me? Should I really go 15 agi on both weapon?
Bankbeauty
OG
No need intellect, I never get under 85% mana. Running with 2 15agi.
Trespasser
OG
Rivfader said:
Completely forgot about flame shock but even then viper is still the hardest hitting weapon available. (same speed as BoA mace but higher top end and low end damage)
Trespasser
OG
Since shammy's don't get extra agility or AP from agility (like rogues do). The +3agility grants 6AP.
6/14=0.429dps. With a speed of 2.8 that grants a additional 1.2damage per hit. That makes the low end damage about the same but the high end damage on the viper stinger is still higher. SO the Stinging viper will still be higher damage.
However the BoA mace still has some crit and haste but the value of this will depend on your other stats making it hard to give a value with the current information. And the stinging viper still has the proc even if it does low damage it is still additional damage.
It is true that the stam might be very valuable at the moment so that might be the reason to take the BoA mace. But once ambush is nerfed on live (already announce some time ago) the viper might will be better again. However if that is at the cata release it might be different again because currently on the beta viper is a lvl 16 weapon. But then there are also new weapons available so it will be a new story then.
6/14=0.429dps. With a speed of 2.8 that grants a additional 1.2damage per hit. That makes the low end damage about the same but the high end damage on the viper stinger is still higher. SO the Stinging viper will still be higher damage.
However the BoA mace still has some crit and haste but the value of this will depend on your other stats making it hard to give a value with the current information. And the stinging viper still has the proc even if it does low damage it is still additional damage.
It is true that the stam might be very valuable at the moment so that might be the reason to take the BoA mace. But once ambush is nerfed on live (already announce some time ago) the viper might will be better again. However if that is at the cata release it might be different again because currently on the beta viper is a lvl 16 weapon. But then there are also new weapons available so it will be a new story then.