DF beta hunter edition

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  1. Goohd

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    STATS ON RETAIL
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    STATS ON DF BETA
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    -as you can see, it seems like gear remains untouched, I have almost the exact same stats on both retail and the beta. Only change is my boot enchant is now giving 4 agility on beta instead of 3 agility.

    -exotic beasts lvl 39 confirmed

    -wing clip given baseline to all specs now

    -aimed shot numbers with 2 points of careful aim
    -1300 non crits
    -2600 crits

    -aimed shot numbers without careful aim at all
    -880 non crits
    -1700 crits

    -kill shot damage as MM
    -720 non crits
    -1500 crits

    -kill shot damage as BM
    -598 non crits
    -1160 crits

    -kill shot damage as Surv
    -same as mm

    -dire beast: basilisk dmg unchanged, doing 246 per hit on both retail and beta

    -dire beast: hawk dmg unchanged, doing 95 per hit both retail and beta

    -barbed shot does a total of 805 dmg now on beta while its only 465 dmg on retail.

    -the rest of the damaging abilities show very similar tooltips on both retail and beta
     
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    Does cobra shot reduce the cool down of kill command? Saw some comments saying on the official post saying it doesn't, despite the tool tip still saying it does
     
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    icehawk The Beast Within

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    Thanks Goohd, much appreciated.

    Any chance u could do a dps check on Kill Command?

    Looks like Aimed Shot will be instant delete again if it crits on someone :FrogeTorch:

    Thanks!
     
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    It’s worth noting that damage (and healing) numbers can change as they may retune classes before the next expansion (and more) arrives. Time will tell, of course.

    Still, thank you for sharing!
     
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  5. Sil

    Sil Member

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    Very true, seems like there's always space to bump Raptor Strike another 10 or 20% before the end of the year :monkaLaugh:
     
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    Wish I could still get ilvl28 gear :(

    Have you tried adding the Armored Elekk Tusk and/or the Injector to those damage numbers for MM?
     
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    ty goohd
     
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    damage numbers would be more meaningful if you included the corresponding values on live.
     
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    Goohd

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    yes it does

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    tested it in combat aswell and works. so the tooltip does not lie

    280 dmg per pet with animal companion (same numbers as retail and beta)
    480 dmg when not spec'd with animal companion on beta. 433 dmg on retail when not spec'd with animal companion
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    wierd thing i found also is when you tell Chromie to come back into present time, bfa dungeons dont show up at all

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    -we still dont have access to oribos portal, nor did i get any pop up quest to start the quest chain and is not a chromie time option
    -tier 3 garrison requires lvl 40
    -gf'd valentine necklaces remain unnerfed
    -enchant weapon 2H-mighty agility now giving 13 agil at lvl 20 instead of 12
     
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  10. Winterly

    Winterly Level 1 Hunter 1-10 Coordinator

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    Can you post a pic of a level 1 hunters spell book / character panel
     
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    Goohd

    Goohd born good

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    literally just steady shot, nothing when u go to bm, surv or mm spellbook tabs. heirlooms still give 0 stats at lvl 1 too.

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    got up to 159% movement speed with zandalari troll racial (embrace of gronk), enchant boots - minor speed, gift cloak enchant, 2 points of trailblazer and aspect of the beast. NO speed tertiary gear included.

    -249% movement speed with initial aspect of cheetah speed buff, 189% movement speed with secondary aspect of cheetah buff.

    -209% movement speed with 2 points of posthaste speed buff
     
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    Would it be possible to have another update if you get a chance to test the stat-squished items? :)
    I'm curious if the aim shot will now do 150% of someone's reduced HP or if it'll be limited to 30% or so, with having much reduced mastery and agi and stuff
     
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    icehawk The Beast Within

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    Also on PTR some talents seem level locked even though early in the tree. Are they still like that on Beta?

    edit: would u be able to check if we can get Beast Cleave at 20? It allows us to select it but it’s level gated on PTR?
     
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    Hunter speed is truly wack. Gg lol
     
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    Goohd

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    aimed shot now dealing 750 dmg with 2 points of careful aim, 1300 crits
    505 dmg with no careful aim at all, 1003 crits
    these numbers are based on having 175 agility, 9% versa, and 10% mastery. also note they should obviously be lower hitting an actual player with versatility.

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    sadly their bugged on beta still aswell :(
     
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    well, damn, 1300*85%=1105, that's still 50% of HP for even tankier twinks with 2200 HP and 30% vers.
     
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    30% vers is probably impossible for a 20 in DF and its certainly not going to be possible with 2200 health, which is about the upper limit of my full 2str/2stm gemmed tauren warrior in instanced pvp. I think. I'm sitting at 1925 in open world right now.

    Some very rough, bar napkin math and educated guessing says a full adaptable 20 (lol) with +3 stam gems might be sitting at like 20-22% vers and ~1800 health in open world. Even with Enforcers Stun Grenade up that looks like itll still run more like 25-26%

    Which is to say, a 1330 aimed shot is gonna hurt. Especially on casters (clothie armor reduction is only about 7%). Luckily, we got a few more tools to deal with hunters and Goohd is exceptionally well geared. So 1300 aimed shots wont be the norm. Also, looks like he has 1100 health putting out that damage which puts him in "get globalled" range of my warrior.

    But 20s, should they see organized pvp, is gonna be a bursty, bursty bracket.
     
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    well, this sucks, i was hoping for a less bursty meta.
     
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    I think only a small amount of people will actually put 2/2 into Careful aim too. Depending on how the spec tree changes, it might come with a big loss of other abilites. I personally would take Rapidfire, even if I miss Careful Aim at all.
     
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    time to pump the brakes. Looks like we probably have a full re-gear ahead of us in DF

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