Omgimarogue
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sk8g0at said:
no its not
cant stealth up the stump
Debate on ""exploits""
- Thread starter ninedash
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no its not
cant stealth up the stump
Scrounger
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Since Blizz had not fully defined what is and is not an exploit - this is really a matter of opinion.
IMHO - it's an exploit if the FC uses jumps to preclude ranged or melee attack. The problem is that the FC and his/her support can burn down attackers from a safe location while the attackers attempt to duplicate the jump pattern. Obviously this situation occurs when the FC jumps to a place that is not targetable by an attacker (either ranged or melee) DPS - unless the attacker duplicates that same jump pattern.
Why do I have this opinion - if Blizz allows this behavior, then it dramatically changes the dynamics of WSG. It will become a race to grab the flag and hide it in these highly defensible positions. Turtles are already bad enough now without encouraging more of them.
Looking at it from another perspective, what type of gaming skill are you trying to reward: 1) class skill, gear, team tactics/coordination or 2) advanced terrain movement (jumping).
At the end of the day, though, reasonable people can disagree.
IMHO - it's an exploit if the FC uses jumps to preclude ranged or melee attack. The problem is that the FC and his/her support can burn down attackers from a safe location while the attackers attempt to duplicate the jump pattern. Obviously this situation occurs when the FC jumps to a place that is not targetable by an attacker (either ranged or melee) DPS - unless the attacker duplicates that same jump pattern.
Why do I have this opinion - if Blizz allows this behavior, then it dramatically changes the dynamics of WSG. It will become a race to grab the flag and hide it in these highly defensible positions. Turtles are already bad enough now without encouraging more of them.
Looking at it from another perspective, what type of gaming skill are you trying to reward: 1) class skill, gear, team tactics/coordination or 2) advanced terrain movement (jumping).
At the end of the day, though, reasonable people can disagree.
Xäo
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We all know what exploits are, lets not get caught up on sementics.
Personally, I think they're all fine in premades. If you're a twink, you should knoww the jumps. But when D-bags use exploits in PUGS to turtle, that's going to far. And actually kind of sad and embarrassing for them in a way.
Personally, I think they're all fine in premades. If you're a twink, you should knoww the jumps. But when D-bags use exploits in PUGS to turtle, that's going to far. And actually kind of sad and embarrassing for them in a way.
Blåjæger
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hidfrosty said:
lol i think that one is even easier to get on
3 very simple jumps, as soon as i heard about it i did it on first try ... why do people cry about this Conrose
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sk8g0at said:
Further reinforcing my theory that Alliance Member Race's Architecture is vastly superior to Horde equivalents. Dwarven Bunker > Orcish Towers, Silverwing Hold > Warsong Lumbermill. Dun Baldar Bridge > Crumby wooden fortress walls.
The minor features of Silverwing Hold should be fixed though as it is a major advantage for the Alliance side having such such a strong defensible position so near the GY by comparison to the Horde's equivalent of the tunnel entrance.