Falkor said:doesnt matter. you join a pug you agree to follow the leaders rules, which can either be not stated or change on the fly. no punishment happened in the similar case i described....so thats bs is the gms took it away. the dk had it in the end, he could use it. doesnt matter if the pally won the roll. same as me rolling on plate gear as a clothie to trade it to a guildie, to ensure a pug scrub doesnt take the gear.