Constructive/logical steps 4twinking solution

Corportations very insightfull post lead me here. this is copy paste of my attempt to make sense of the twink-rape. I plan to post final version on gen forums in a week or so after gatherin data.

Case in point: We are not trying to defend twinking. I cannot believe a blue would actually say something as crude as "As a company, we've never officially supported twinking. We've just been allowing it this whole time." I believe twinks have been wronged, moreover so- why are pleading twinks being shoved aside? It might be lack of a organized approach.



Hardships we face: Each time there is a post about twinks having a problem, it ends up in arguments/debate. Makes me wonder if bllizz pays some low IQ primitives to purposely "nullify" a good thread with moronic comments. For no one with semi-working common sense would take time out of actual game play to argue about beeswax, anywho, IF we can kindly ignore the off-topic comments, and then we can produce something productive/solid/logical as basis of our situation.



Attempts at solution: Add more to these questions/suggestions or point out falicies in my suggestions and once we have decent list we can copy paste :)



Few simple questions;

DO we not pay 15$ , same as others?

Why are xp-off players forced in a different battle que which has a wait time of 1 hour peak time(usually 4 hours in 24 hour period) and 3-5 hours wait time(for rest 20 hours)? Why can't xp-off players join same bg's as others?

Is blizz trying to act incompetent as not to see the problem or admitting to purposefully segregating and thus killing twinks?





Few misc questions:

Do twinks not help the economy by buying lvl 19/29/39 etc stuff which otherwise would be useless?

Are twinks unfair? Aren't twinks on "both" sides?

Can't "anyone" make their own twink? It is open for everyone. everyone is welcome.

Twinks do not effect endgame, any PVE freak can still enjoy endgame twink free. Twinks simply make lower lvls brackets more interesting.

What did twinks do wrong to suffer this?

Camping/ganking is allowing in world pvp but when done in bg's it's looked down upon?



And I am lilttle skeptical of this one myself, but to throw it out there:

quote from blizz "We don't want players who are participating in Battlegrounds while continuing their leveling experience on the same playing field as those who make the most of their character in a given level bracket and want to stay there."



Don't lvl 80's gank low lvls in pvp area? Isn't battleground a Pvp area? Arn't there PVE and PVP realms? The level req of bgs is made by blizz, for example, before bg's were lvl 21-30, then blizz decided 30/40/50 were 2 strong and moved back to 29/39. Players who use thier time/money to build up their charactors are being "unfair" to those who don't? and must be seperated? this arguement leads to, if successfull. xp-off players to join normal bg's.





add more to these questions or point out falicies in my suggestions and once we have decent list we can copy paste :)
 
we pay 15 dollars, yes



but we don't pay enough 15 dollars

if you know what i mean : /



honestly the blue posts on the twinkinfo front page seemed very blunt, uncomforting, and HONEST. the truth hurts.



the only thing i can see us disputing is the timer. otherwise i don't see anything that is worth changing for twinks, since our activity is a very small fraction of what the 80 community has.
 
You pay 15 dollars, but its a godamned GAME. Its not a mandatory payment (IRL taxes) that you can justify fighting for equal rights. You choose to play the game because you enjoy it and you believe that the time you spend playing it is worth 15 dollars a month. If you dont believe that its worth 15 dollars a month, quit the game and stop throwing your money to them. I understand that you could be upset with the recent changes but you have to remember Blizzard never really supported twinking, they just allowed it to happen. The whole game is about endgame which is why all the content is at endgame: Heroics, Raids, Flyers, Northrend, more Battlegrounds, Rated Arena. Twinking is just a fun gimmick that was bound to crash eventually.
 
joshmartin said:
Doesn't mean we throw in a the towel. Solid/logical/suggestions even basic productive comments are welcome.



only QQ about the timer, that is something they can possibly "fix." although i've learned that the timer isn't that bad anyways since it keeps queue times low and ends turtles. but it still does cut some good games short.



read sig about the queues...



i realize that you can't just throw in the towel, but if you're inactive then that's your problem.



solution? get together and xfer to one battlegroup. 49s has done this for ruin, 39s and 29s are doing it for other BGs, and 69s seem to be conjuring something atm (or at least forums say this). BE PROACTIVE! don't mope around and blame blizzard, they're just trying to get twinks to play with each other and to have what they care most about (80s and levelers) be free from twinks.
 
"We don't want players who are participating in Battlegrounds while continuing their leveling experience on the same playing field as those who make the most of their character in a given level bracket and want to stay there."





Why is it that from lvl 70-79 I am getting pounced by lvl 80's in full raid gear inside battlegrounds?

It seems the same issue with twinks that they separated us out for.
 
katedru said:
"We don't want players who are participating in Battlegrounds while continuing their leveling experience on the same playing field as those who make the most of their character in a given level bracket and want to stay there."



Why is it that from lvl 70-79 I am getting pounced by lvl 80's in full raid gear inside battlegrounds?

It seems the same issue with twinks that they separated us out for.

well, this issue has existed for years with twinks being mixed in with non-twinks.



there is still an issue with 71-79s being trounced on by 80s but for now that's how it goes. let blizzard know of this issue and if they feel it's detramental enough to the WoW community they'll change it.
 

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