Dragonstormy
Member
Those guys always find a way to start drama on any threads lol
consider supporting a 1 level wide 20s bracket
- Thread starter fungchewuchi
- Start date
Holythane
Lewno
Chops
Soccer Dad
is actually remarkably calm for a blizz forum thread about twinks lol
toskosa
Grandfathered
Back in cata I saw someone lvling there rogue in full t3, I actually wanted to cry irl it was a terrible experience and it wasn't even my rogue.
Ppl are getting kinda worked up about this....I am having fun reading the posts though.
Twobuttons
Legend
tence
Legend
leveled my paladin from 19 to 20 in mop. No ragrets.
Chops
Soccer Dad
joining the 20s bracket in MOP wasnt so much leveling as it was ascending
truth
New Member
The class balance at 29 is not far from what it is at 20, so 29's are still stuck with class balance problems.
Most players who spend more than a month to gear respectably, would probably not waste their time if their opponent so much more powerful. The 20 to 29 ratio makes it worse than in other brackets. It could concievably be as high as 50% considering the extra abilities.
Subbed 20-29 PVP will suffer a contagion if the queue times increase too much and the only remaining PVPer's are lvl 29 hunters. FTP's can choose from other wow content, as well as many other non-sub focussed games.
Fungchewuchi has a decent proposal because keeping FTP players involved in 20-29 PVP is positive for Blizzard's bottom line also. (for example: targets for subbed players to PVP against, for game design expense saving, for more choice for subbed accounts, for free advertising, for twitch popularity, for community creation and for popularity in general)
Whether or not those in control at Blizzard remains for us to be seen. Past experience is that they will not, but remember that they introduced starter accounts, so hopefully the potential is still there for them to have some foresight on this.
ps to Supacow: Thank you for protecting and not destroying. The cost of free speech is also that many stupid things will be said. The point of free speech is that people get to re-examine their naivety and thereby improve. Although I disagree with your opinion on the bracket merge, I hope that what I have said is clear to the extent that it helps you see an alternate view, which I expect is in the direction of what you sacrificed for.
ps to Nutsmite: Supacow didn't say he trained to kill people. Supacow said he was willing to sacrifice his real life for your right to share your opinion, and I think he already showed his commitment to this. I hope your ego can appreciate possible malaligned monologs and correct them.
Most players who spend more than a month to gear respectably, would probably not waste their time if their opponent so much more powerful. The 20 to 29 ratio makes it worse than in other brackets. It could concievably be as high as 50% considering the extra abilities.
Subbed 20-29 PVP will suffer a contagion if the queue times increase too much and the only remaining PVPer's are lvl 29 hunters. FTP's can choose from other wow content, as well as many other non-sub focussed games.
Fungchewuchi has a decent proposal because keeping FTP players involved in 20-29 PVP is positive for Blizzard's bottom line also. (for example: targets for subbed players to PVP against, for game design expense saving, for more choice for subbed accounts, for free advertising, for twitch popularity, for community creation and for popularity in general)
Whether or not those in control at Blizzard remains for us to be seen. Past experience is that they will not, but remember that they introduced starter accounts, so hopefully the potential is still there for them to have some foresight on this.
ps to Supacow: Thank you for protecting and not destroying. The cost of free speech is also that many stupid things will be said. The point of free speech is that people get to re-examine their naivety and thereby improve. Although I disagree with your opinion on the bracket merge, I hope that what I have said is clear to the extent that it helps you see an alternate view, which I expect is in the direction of what you sacrificed for.
ps to Nutsmite: Supacow didn't say he trained to kill people. Supacow said he was willing to sacrifice his real life for your right to share your opinion, and I think he already showed his commitment to this. I hope your ego can appreciate possible malaligned monologs and correct them.
Nutsmite
Veteran
He didn't do anything for me, i live in Poland and I couldn't care less for meaningless wars over the oil on the desert or whatever he participated in. Hit me up when your supercountry saves the wasteland that's forming right now next to my borders and we can talk about owing any respect
Chops
Soccer Dad
he brought up his service as a cudgel to shut someone up in an internet argument. Which, honestly, is about the only time anyone mentions that they served outside of trying to get a discount at the local buffet.
truth
New Member
Nutsmite, you are confused as to whether you are for or against people from other countries helping. I don't think defaming Supacow will help resolve this problem.
I would like to learn something and I think you would do better to challenge my opinion on the subject topic, so please stick to that.
I would like to learn something and I think you would do better to challenge my opinion on the subject topic, so please stick to that.
LZ
Legend
I don't think this will work, but people showing they care and there are good reasons to keep us around might change what happens down the road. blizzard is just a lazy company in general and when it comes to us even lazier. everything they've ever done to/about this bracket has just been a diceroll. this bracket was alive for at least half a decade because they just lolsorandom decided not to make vets bank XP. or just by accident did it. that decision either way had 0% anything to do with letting us twink and everything to do with making it so people couldn't progress when they weren't subbed. or it was an accident, or just a random quirk.
maybe they thought about it this time, but as long as people are whining at them yelling "TAKE OUR FUCKING MONEY" you never know what will happen
you win some you lose. SL was 10x funner than 20s has been in a while because of all the people who dropped in. but when every game in the entire bracket is a 10v10 twink game levelers are gonna have a very bad time
maybe they thought about it this time, but as long as people are whining at them yelling "TAKE OUR FUCKING MONEY" you never know what will happen
you win some you lose. SL was 10x funner than 20s has been in a while because of all the people who dropped in. but when every game in the entire bracket is a 10v10 twink game levelers are gonna have a very bad time
OP
OP
fungchewuchi
Master of the Flying Guillotine
i think the more people that comment there supporting 20s, whether this exact idea or not, would help the chances.
Epichealtime
Legend
Not bad eh? It's kind of funny the state of the bracket right now almost reminds me of old times.
Dragonstormy
Member
It says you need to reach lvl 10 for commenting, but i have 20's eh? Bliz Account somehow doesn't connect to my ingame chars
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Goesid
Twink Info Legend
we dont know that, all that we know is that he hasnt.
