US Community Vs The Bracket

[Nicozy]

This whole "xp off players on average are not that good" I agree cuz I yell at people in bg's all the time but have you played a levling bg? These guys don't even know what the word ramp means and chill in mid getting dumpstered.

Guys will literally let flag run 2 yards past them and not give a single fuck.

You will have to do EVERYTHING like back in the day or cata/mop f2p.

We had shit pugs for a lot of this expansion but atleast we had the chance of some really cool n good games somewhat regularly with decent people both sides and players knowing roles(and WOD is so ez to play as long as you grasp your role, something 99% of levlers are incapable of due to having to use brain for 10 seconds)

Legion we don't really know how important roles and certain classes will be (now for pugs in wod druid/hunters are like godtier) but fuck me there will be a lot of randoms not understanding the concept.

Wod was extremly streamlined as long as you played your role, only like all star players really stood out in pugs hence why someone getting back from a year hiatus being an average player could do well just by understanding their role for pugs.

but for me it all comes down to dmg/healing numbers and spell balancing. I like everyone having the same stats pmuch and dislike how much ima be tilting on levlers but it all won't matter to me at the end of the day. All about the gameplay baby.

 

[Jamesb]

The OP knows what I intend to do. If that does not come to fruition, I will just go about what I am doing now and lurk in the shadows anomalously, just the way I like it.

Are you referring to your big guild you mentioned awhile back

 

[Mvq]

Commenting on whoever said the quality of PuGs will hardly plummet, I disagree. We XPoff players ARE better at WSG than levelers I've hardly seen a leveler who can do the jumps.

In response to the thread, we simply Have to see how legion goes.

You argue that levelers are shit and therefor Pugs won't be shit. Well .. You're ignoring their side of the arguement clearly.

They, including me, argue that Pugs will be shit becasue there won't be 20 Twinks in each game. We don't want games where we can farm noobs. We want games where we're challenged by great players.

 

[Jamesb]

You argue that levelers are shit and therefor Pugs won't be shit. Well .. You're ignoring their side of the arguement clearly.

They, including me, argue that Pugs will be shit becasue there won't be 20 Twinks in each game. We don't want games where we can farm noobs. We want games where we're challenged by great players.

I think we will have the competitive edge due to skill is what I mean; I think though that due to the similarities in stats and damage that we will share with your average player as long as they have half a brain games should be half decent.

 

[Mvq]

I think we will have the competitive edge due to skill is what I mean; I think though that due to the similarities in stats and damage that we will share with your average player as long as they have half a brain games should be half decent.

I'm aware that we'll have an edge due to skill. Thing is that players aren't half decent in XPOn. You should read Nicozy's post in this thread. He explains it pretty well. If you queue up for an XPOn game you'll realize that Legion games will be shit.

Guys will literally let flag run 2 yards past them and not give a single duck.

 

[Jamesb]

I'm aware that we'll have an edge due to skill. Thing is that players aren't half decent in XPOn. You should read Nicozy's post in this thread. He explains it pretty well. If you queue up for an XPOn game you'll realize that Legion games will be shit.

Yeah I did read it, I'm not disagreeing that there will be bad games but also factor on that the opposing team in these BGs will have a chance to have other twinks as well where as XP on BGsnow are literally all scrubs

 

[Mvq]

Yeah I did read it, I'm not disagreeing that there will be bad games but also factor on that the opposing team in these BGs will have a chance to have other twinks as well where as XP on BGsnow are literally all scrubs

Sure. But we're argueing whether games will decline in quality. And you agree now. So discussion closed.

 

[Kirise]

and where the hell is yoube?

@Sun, there's a name I haven't seen in forever! I went to sell unbound Scarlet Boots on the AH today, and had a flashback to old 39s games. ...Yoube's alive and well, spending his (rare) free time in Route 66 and Hanamura instead of in WoW.

We had shit pugs for a lot of this expansion but at least we had the chance of some really cool n good games somewhat regularly with decent people both sides and players knowing roles(and WOD is so ez to play as long as you grasp your role, something 99% of levlers are incapable of due to having to use brain for 10 seconds)

True, when XP-off PuGs worked out, they worked out well. But I wouldn't use the word "regularly" to describe that frequency of occurrence. ...I think people will be surprised that PuGs in Legion won't be quite so comparatively bad (not saying they'll be good, to be clear). More to the point, I'm saying that the difference between "bad" and "awful" in terms of games is not as big as people say it is.

With that said, plenty of people had fun in TBC, so non-awesome games may not be necessary for some players.

Commenting on whoever said the quality of PuGs will hardly plummet, I disagree. We XPoff players ARE better at WSG than levelers I've hardly seen a leveler who can do the jumps.

I've hardly seen an XP-off PuG where anyone did jumps.

In response to the thread, we simply Have to see how legion goes.

True. And I think that's fortunate -- there is still enough space in the "unknown" of what Legion brings, that hope remains.

 

[Dagamela]

To be fair, wod pugs were shitty most of the time anyway

 

[Hobbes]

Why ppl gettin riled up on a silly kids game?

 

[Kirise]

Why ppl gettin riled up on a silly kids game?

If "a silly kids game" is the most you got out of WoW, you missed out on some tremendous experiences. The dilapidation of the home of those experiences are why people are gettin riled up.

 

[partygirl]

Team IKEA esports will carry EU 19s

 

[Sponsor]

Simply put in a few words, I think this change will bring us twinks closer together. Enemies will become allies in this fight against the noobs.

It also feels great to represent Twinks in this battle. Be honorable, as the PuGers will admire you if you are.

 

[Conq]

xp off players on average are far better than random levelers imo, especially 19s.

 

[Purj]

Just because someone is leveling it does not necessarily make them a "noob". Even a veteran of the game sometimes levels through PvP. I know I level up my twinks through BGs. That is how I obtain my battlestandard before I stop my XP. After all, if a player does not have their battle standard they are truly not a twinked out toon.



This would be a fair assessment. XPoff players are probably better at lower level WSG than the larger portion of the WoW players. That is practically all they play after all.
Now, if we were to place those very same "great" lowel WSG players in an end game hardcore raid setting they would, more than likely, fail miserably.

Good points. I have leveled alts through PvP and encountered some pretty skilled opponents now and then.

The BIGGEST frustration for me is when the dude with 600hp tries to be an FC hero all game long. Gotta be able to react and be ready to get the pick, repick, or to beat him on the scrolls to get the flag.

 

[Sponsor]

Just because someone is leveling it does not necessarily make them a "noob". Even a veteran of the game sometimes levels through PvP. I know I level up my twinks through BGs. That is how I obtain my battlestandard before I stop my XP. After all, if a player does not have their battle standard they are truly not a twinked out toon.

I hesitated while writing that entry. I was at loss of words. Coming back and reading it over again, I can say that you are right and I should rather have called them "XPon'ers"