EU+US Class tiers first impressions?

Tier 1: Boomkin, Outlaw, Survival, Disc, feral, Ret??(Maybe T1 with a decent brained individual behind it)

Tier 2: WW, Fire Mage, Arms, Aff, Hpal, R sham, holy priest,

Tier 3: Spriest, Frost Mage, enhance, r Druid, marks, Arcane


Note: still need to test ele/destro/mw

Prob missed some shit, nothing's super broken though which is nice, it'd be nice to q 2s with healers though. Start Qing some 3s boys, let's make this bracket great; :Kappa:
 
Trialmop said:
U so troll on site but not ingame lol. You know what these threads will do. lol
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Yeah he steady is chill in game but then talks shit etc on here all the time. Told him about my friend who ddosd once like a year before I said it n he had nothing to say in game but was on here sayin something about it the next week.
 
assassin is the best rogue spec to play right now
outlaw's full combo is RNG reliant, and having no shadowstep only makes things worse

rupture and http://www.wowhead.com/spell=193640 is too strong
5cp rupture and poisons melt tanks, with 2cp rupture to proc talent on clothies i can land two 850 + non-crit multilates with 2.60 dagger and it crits very often, rupture can literally 100 to 0 a low geared leveler if no one help him
 
SikTh said:
assassin is the best rogue spec to play right now
outlaw's full combo is RNG reliant, and having no shadowstep only makes things worse

rupture and http://www.wowhead.com/spell=193640 is too strong
5cp rupture and poisons melt tanks, with 2cp rupture to proc talent on clothies i can land two 850 + non-crit multilates with 2.60 dagger and it crits very often, rupture can literally 100 to 0 a low geared leveler if no one help him
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Sorta implies you have a lot of uptime, with ranged kidney and a spamable ranged crip, Outlaw is by far better than Assassination. I know rupture does a lot of damage, however I feel like it's clunky and requires ramp up time.
 
I want sub to be the best rogue spec, but whatever. I've been dabbling with MM hunter at 29. The tool-set is great; 50%hp heal and the disorient (doesn't seem to knock players back which is a shame) but damage doesn't seem that high to me.....not bad, but not high. I always roll solo though, and MM is the best hunter spec for that.
 
Wanna add to what alister said, even at 20 outlaw vs other 20s is still a high threat. and since they gave them warriors retaliate, they really only go super squish against casters and ranged.

Assassin is pretty good now, i don't really like elaborate planning. Sub is just...ugh..
 
FourCornersStance said:
Wanna add to what alister said, even at 20 outlaw vs other 20s is still a high threat. and since they gave them warriors retaliate, they really only go super squish against casters and ranged.

Assassin is pretty good now, i don't really like elaborate planning. Sub is just...ugh..
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What specifically is bad about sub? I've been excited to try it.
 
AlisterCrow said:
What specifically is bad about sub? I've been excited to try it.
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They don't have poisons anymore, for one. which means they are the only spec without a form of slowing. Gloomblade is nice, but honestly, without a decent way to stick to your target you're fodder. They don't really start to stand out until level 34. If you want to play one, I'd suggest pairing with a class that has a snare. Sub for the first time since I Started twinking in cataclysm is actually the least powerful of the 3 rogue specs.
 
Leek said:
Yeah there's an odd bug going on atm for fire mage where fireball is hitting for 720-810 (no crit) every cast
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That's a large gap in damage. I can for one tell you I've never got above a 750 non crit fireball, unless outside dueling.
 
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