Class Counters (Discussion)

Trialkiller

Trialkiller

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So obviously there's no perfect class that can beat everything out there 1 v 1, as OP as some of them are, and I'm sure everyone has a certain class / spec they hate fighting against solo. When I first decided to roll a pally in WotLK I noticed they were really good in 1v1's, obviously a lot has changed since then but they're still a great class in any spec at low level and there's not much that can really give a 29 ret a run for it's money. That being said it is still a challenge to play against something like a geared enhance shaman or brew monk, not to say there's no way to beat them as ret but they're a pretty hard counter and I always go try hard whenever I run into one of them 1v1. As holy it's pretty much the same where I can't touch brew, enhance or even WW monks in a 1 v 1 so I usually end up kiting them as best as I can.

So what are some classes / specs you love to pwn with ease or try to do whatever you can to get away from?
 
Pwn: Your mother.
Run from: Your mother's constant booty calls.
 
Pwn: other arms warriors, locks, ferals (sometimes), fire mage, rogues (when evasion down)
Avoid: hunters, 29bms (the keg smash sounds make me cringe), some holy paladins
 
Ok well as a MW my ultimate counter is probably enh shamans, well..those who remember to purge and wind shear that is :3
Taking away my env mist is pretty big. Though I can certainly run and roll for it, but the frost shocks and ghost form can keep em close. Flameshock will proc the EF so I will start to drop and any stopping is a pretty huge risk for them stormstrikes :3

Edit: Though timing is required for escape with dispell, my glyphed roll to break from slow and lust to also break from slow.
 
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Pwn: most melee, resto/balance druids, mages
Run from shadow priests, holy paladins, 28+ BMs that roll out of snare.
 
im still waiting to take my first 1v1 L (as in one single loss, both for duels and 1v1's in arena, if i had one I'd have the screenshot of it & the player who committed it would have got a compliment in game pm, cuz they'd have been the first & i plan/planned to give gratz to the 1st) against another ret, a feral, a rogue, enhance, ww, bm, on my ret... and nothing else that i didn't mention is anywhere even close to being able to compete w/ rets.

I know in experience not one of those classes beats ret, especially considering crusader... if crusader occurs, nothing at all is able to handle ret for 1v1 in 29.

even without sader, most of the listed things can't do shit to a ret & most likely they'll log out after that first 1v1, or if its arena, a quick comp switch to play a comp as good or better.

rets are #1 in 1v1 atm, WW monks right after that, then probably BM & enhance on same level/tier of effectiveness but still remains very clearly both rets & ww's will WASH everything underneath them in 1v1, Bm's ferals and enhances are within that ''underneath'' category.

If you don't experience being able to win 1v1's as Retribution Paladin against anything & everything, its not the class its your gameplay.

edited disclaimer: to avoid a sarcastic response, anything & everything in 29s. not anything & everything in general. All 29 twink classes. Only 1v1 fights within arenas/duels/legitimate battleground 1v1's, any proper 1v1 PvP form where its possible to ''judge''
 
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Jetlife said:
im still waiting to take my first 1v1 L (as in one single loss, both for duels and 1v1's in arena, if i had one I'd have the screenshot of it & the player who committed it would have got a compliment from me, cuz they'd have been the first) against another ret, a feral, a rogue, enhance, ww, bm, on my ret... and nothing else that i didn't mention is anywhere even close to being able to compete w/ rets.

I know in experience not one of those classes beats ret, especially considering crusader... if crusader occurs, nothing at all is able to handle ret for 1v1 in 29.

even without sader, most of the listed things can't do shit to a ret & most likely they'll log out after that first 1v1, or if its arena, a quick comp switch to play a comp as good or better.

rets are #1 in 1v1 atm, WW monks right after that, then probably BM & enhance on same level/tier of effectiveness but still remains very clearly both rets & ww's will WASH everything underneath them in 1v1, Bm's ferals and enhances are within that ''underneath'' category.

If you don't experience being able to win 1v1's as Retribution Paladin against anything & everything, its not the class its your gameplay.

edited disclaimer: to avoid a sarcastic response, anything & everything in 29s. not anything & everything in general. All 29 twink classes.
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Respectfully, I disagree...Rets don't really give me any problems 1v1, but maybe there are just that many bads. /shrug
 
Knewbie said:
Respectfully, I disagree...Rets don't really give me any problems 1v1, but maybe there are just that many bads. /shrug
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there are that many man... i wish it wasn't how i described it, makes it so i gotta play other 29s more of the time than i want even tho i love ret due to just how fun the kit design is
 
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Jamesb said:
Ret is strong
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Oh, I know.
The Rets that can get close squish me pretty quick, but not many get that chance.
Like I said, there may just be that many bad Rets that they don't cause me to view the general spec as problematic.
 
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1v1 in my eyes is not the best fight you may have.

Either way,

The good classes at the moment are ranked like this in my point of view.

Balance Druid > BM Monk > Feral Druid > Enh Shaman > Ret Paladin > Arms Warrior > WW Monk > Survival Hunter .... etc
 
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