[Cata] New AGM stats and damage reduce

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When they removed the fishing boots, that was the first step to ruining twinks.



Then they removed the leg/head enchantments



Then they put BoA gear(creating new BiS gear that scrubs[wanna be twinks] could use)



Now they will be removing fishing hat with an uber easy head-item that any scrub can get their hands on.



Our last item will be the AGM, if they manage to remove the agm, twinking will be ruined.



Even tho a twink is defined as getting the BiS gear/enchantment for your class/spec, even if it ment going into extreme messures to getting a fishing hat that is only obtainable once a week and has an uber low drop rate; If it is obtainable, we'll go for it. But when WoW replaces our BiS gear with easy gear to get like BoA head items or other BoA gears, twinking will be no more and we might as well change twinkinfo.com to scrubinfo.com because that is what twinking is becoming, a bunch of scrubs claiming to be twinks. It's only a matter of time now.



Grunge is right.



Nuff Said.
 
I've mentioned this before, and I'll mention it again.



I've been twinking, since before we knew we were actually twinking. We've seen it all, experienced the 'ups and downs' and the things that some people enjoyed and other hated. We've seen leg armors come and go, we've seen fishing boots being 'discovered' and being taken away. We have grinded Libram quests, for leg and head enchant. And seen em being taken away. We've discovered AGM (IL 55) being obtainable by 19s and we've experienced item's obtainable by 19s that you would ALL almost without exception agree on had no place in the 19 bracket (Enti's? Weatherbeaten Fishinghat?). But we kept twinking, with it being a part of twinking.



We're still here. Not just because the only thing we enjoyed was steamrolling lowlevels. Not just because we liked having OP items. But because we liked twinking. And we liked twinking with people we liked. And where ever the game takes us, we will keep twinking.



19 twink at heart.



-Jaxel
 
Word to what Jaxel just said, but my contribution is that twinking is and always has been about using everything and obtaining everything that is possible to get on your toon at whatever level it is at, using it however you please to gain an advantage over other players. Anyone who tries to imply that twinking should be a fair sport, then you are direly wrong. Its always been about abusing your gear to roll godmode over your opponants.
 
Grunge said:
Twinking WAS and ALWAYS HAS BEEN about rolling levelers you fag, its people like you that came in with your ideas of fairness and honor and fucked things up for the rest of us.



Every person who has been playing for more than 2 years will tell you there is no honor amongst twinks, your ideals have no place here.
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you sure are an emotional faggot arent you? You're the generic horrible pvper that gives twinking a bad name. Youre the guy that made a twink because you are horrible at fighting evenly geared players and had to resort to killing levelers to feel like you were good at this incredibly easy game. Sorry brah, future of twinking is looking good for people that like to play against evenly geared players. Tell you what, go make a hunter and roll people in xp on bgs. Thats being good at pvp right? lmao
 
Grunge said:
Twinking WAS and ALWAYS HAS BEEN about rolling levelers you fag, its people like you that came in with your ideas of fairness and honor and fucked things up for the rest of us.



Every person who has been playing for more than 2 years will tell you there is no honor amongst twinks, your ideals have no place here.
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I've been playing for over two years and I can tell you that you're absolutely wrong. Fairness and honor are the main things which contribute to a sense of worth out of this game. I'll never 2v1 a respectable player, i'll never use herb if my opponent doesn't have it, i'll never role a draeni warr/hunt and use naaru if my opponent doesn't have it, I'll never go full resist unless i'm dueling a sham or a lock(as those classes are imbalanced), i'll never use/obtain super hack items...(unless for shits and giggles every now and then), i'll never enjoy killing vastly inferior geared players, and i'll never agree with you.
 
Luhar said:
you sure are an emotional faggot arent you? You're the generic horrible pvper that gives twinking a bad name. Youre the guy that made a twink because you are horrible at fighting evenly geared players and had to resort to killing levelers to feel like you were good at this incredibly easy game. Sorry brah, future of twinking is looking good for people that like to play against evenly geared players. Tell you what, go make a hunter and roll people in xp on bgs. Thats being good at pvp right? lmao
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1. Twinks have never had a good name. Ever. every single person on your server hates you except noobs and chanters.



2. i play priest. i dont kill anything. back when it was spell healing and spell damage pretty much all i did was die, but i didnt care as long as i kept my teammates alive long enough to cap.



3. i like premading, but Pizza fucking ruined the premade scene. they're the team to beat, and they wont play unless you play by their rules. ever try going fishing without a boat, water, or fish? thats what premading vs pizza hut is like. thats what you have to look forward to assuming anyone will even take your nub ass on their a team.



4. as for the hunter comment.. yeah, that kinda does sound like fun. i like having fun.
 
I like to play twinks because the gear is easy to get and by easy I mean it doesn't take tons of grinding, why are you all arguing? Twinking is for fun, like any other part of the game.
 
Honestly grunge is right. If any of you claim that you started twinking because you were searching for better balance and a fairer game you are lying. It's ok to admit that we enjoy being OP. Obviously most people with XP off aren't scrubs or we would have deleted toons by now, just don't try to kid yourself and act all high and mighty about how YOU never rolled lowbies.
 
lindenkron said:
19 twink at heart.



-Jaxel
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My friends may leave,

the game may change,

but come hell or high water,

they ain't gonna get my hat.
 
Oasis said:
I've been playing for over two years and I can tell you that you're absolutely wrong. Fairness and honor are the main things which contribute to a sense of worth out of this game. I'll never 2v1 a respectable player, i'll never use herb if my opponent doesn't have it, i'll never role a draeni warr/hunt and use naaru if my opponent doesn't have it, I'll never go full resist unless i'm dueling a sham or a lock(as those classes are imbalanced), i'll never use/obtain super hack items...(unless for shits and giggles every now and then), i'll never enjoy killing vastly inferior geared players, and i'll never agree with you.
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amen brother
 
Luhar said:
im honestly hoping they put a lvl requirement on agm. I have it on all my twinks but its really a stupid trinket especially for 19s and 29s. Its just another crutch and getting one is a pain for a lot of people on some servers. Id rather everyone just have equal access to gear. This is also why im really glad fishing hat will be replaced.
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I hate you and I dont even know you. Why? People like you caused the nerf that took away shoulder enchants, leg enchants, librams and a level requirement on profession buffs. All those whining threads and tickets you guys bothered Blizzard with when they introduced profession buffs lead to them going overboard with the nerfs. For those who were not playing at the time people Luher who did not have the experience to spare got pissed off when Blizzard introduced profession buffs because it would give new toons an advantage over them. They started making threads on the forums talking about they only care about fairness and all kinds of phony crap. They opened countless tickets to complain. Blizzard took away the highest levels of the profession buffs but did not stop there. They went after the other enchants I mentioned earlier.



Why is someone like Luhar talking about fairness when he is twinking to give himself an advantage over lesser geared players? He is a phony. People like him are the greatest threat to our AGMs.
 
I'm sorry you need 450 mining to crutch on to be good. Some of us like playing on an even footing. "Good players adjust"



"Why is someone like Luhar talking about fairness when he is twinking to give himself an advantage over lesser geared players? "



How is playing in the xp off bgs and having identical gear to everyone else giving myself an advantage against lesser geared players?
 
REVENGE said:
I hate you and I dont even know you. Why? People like you caused the nerf that took away shoulder enchants, leg enchants, librams and a level requirement on profession buffs. All those whining threads and tickets you guys bothered Blizzard with when they introduced profession buffs lead to them going overboard with the nerfs. For those who were not playing at the time people Luher who did not have the experience to spare got pissed off when Blizzard introduced profession buffs because it would give new toons an advantage over them. They started making threads on the forums talking about they only care about fairness and all kinds of phony crap. They opened countless tickets to complain. Blizzard took away the highest levels of the profession buffs but did not stop there. They went after the other enchants I mentioned earlier.



Why is someone like Luhar talking about fairness when he is twinking to give himself an advantage over lesser geared players? He is a phony. People like him are the greatest threat to our AGMs.
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I don't know about you, but I want my Draeni warrior with 30stam boa shoulders, 55stam/22agi leg armor, 2k herb heal, Enti's sword, 450 mining, weather beaten fishing hat, 40 crit scope(heartseeker I believe), full boa, boars speed on fishing boots, 100 health libram, AGM toon to exist. Actually that would be kinda fun, if something like a dozen good/respectable players had toons like that, and they were viewed as bosses where you'd gather a team of 2-3 players to defeat them. But for twinking in general(minus cool boss scenarios) such imbalances are retarded. One of the main reasons for the decline in the number and quality of 19s now is that the state of mind of most 19s went from "man, what race/class would I really enjoy playing", to "man, what race/class is the most simplistic and/or overpowered". I suppose with the buff to naaru, the human racial, hunters being hunters, and the constant buffs to shamans...it's a bit unavoidable.
 
My tought process was - Leveling is shit, im never going to make 60. I know, i've heard these twink fellas can be fun i'll give that a bash. Thus i made my frist druid. Technically that wasnt my frist twink. I had a level 19 rogue waaay back that i decided to go to wsg on because it was a very much preferable to questing. This rogue was by no means BiS or even well geared.



edit: i dont quite think i can be accused of being motivated by faceroll since my first twinks were an undergeared char and a druid which isnt the optimum class to faceroll with.
 
Mine was:

-lol 40+ is a grind

-ill make a warrior

-ill give it a shiny glow

-that rogues shiny glow seems better, ill use it

-EXAMINER WAS BORN
 
Rivfader said:
Let's here it then, why did you make your first twink. What was your thought process.
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Stop trying to be smart.



3 years ago; looked fun, made me go "Oohshinywtf", never GY farmed - guild prohibited it. Affected the way I've seen the game/twinking ever since. I may be an exception, but it's your fault if your an immature fucktard that started just to roll newbies.
 
I am convinced a lot of twink players are a bunch of dishonest phony bastards with no respect for anyone they talk to. They would without pause tell you they twink because they are interested in fair play and balance while gearing themselves up to be totally out of balance with the other people at their level. Don't bring up xp off battlegrounds. You guys are only doing that because blizzard forced you in that direction. If it was not for Blizzard you would still be in regular battlegrounds rolling mostly scrubs.



The biggest scumbag twinks are the ones who demand everyone else only use certain gear. They decided all by themselves AGM should not be used. Now a normal person would say ok "i won't use it but if someone else does I don't care" but these scumbag twinks are different. Their mindset is since I don't want to use it NO ONE ELSE SHOULD BE ABLE TO! Then they do everything from flooding the forums with complaints to wasting GMs time with complaning tickets. These scumbags are the reason for the 3.1 nerf that took away the twink items that gutted the twink population. These phony scumbag twinks talk about honor when 99% of players hate them. Why? If they were so honorable they would be loved not hated. Its just amazing how 2 faced the scumbag twinks could be.
 
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