Caster PvP power vs int

[odyne]

Hey

This question has been asked a few times before i'm aware but i'm still not quite sure of the answer. I know that for many melee classes a hybrid of PvP power and agi/str (whichever they need) is preferable. But for casters i'm not quite sure?

I'm currently at 30-33% PvP Power on most of my casters and i'm wondering if it wouldn't be better to lower it. Does anyone else have experience in this?

 

[Vapriest]

I had a long think about this too when they first launched PvP Power, i think it depends on your class, but most of the casters seem to have a certain "burst cooldown", from my perspective having tailoring and synapse, stacking intellect to aid to this burst is no way near as effective as any PvP Power. But outside of this "burst" i think intellect is stronger than pvp power beyond something in the mid 20%. Personally i prefer haste (i'm haste hard capped with black magic proc) and that took 4-5 haste gems and picking out the right gear, which in my eyes outweighs just stacking PvP Power or Intellect too.

 

[odyne]

Is haste really worth it though as an SP, i mean casttimes are hardly an issue it seems to me? Ofcourse it comes down to personal preference

 

[Vapriest]

I think its better than an extra 4-5% PvP Power

 

[Splosion]

i'm haste hard capped with black magic proc

Eh?

 

[Vapriest]

Eh?

Lols, as in my casted spells (mind blast for eg) are an exact 1.00 second cast i.e in line with the global.

 

[dogform]

depends on your class. read tooltip and check if your spells scale good with spellpower. i should probably go full intellect now since damage of starfire, wrath, starsurge was increased by 9% and so was the intellectscaling. if your spells dont scale well with intellect you should go full pvppower

 

[Splosion]

damage of starfire, wrath, starsurge was increased by 9% and so was the intellectscaling.

And by proxy, so was the contribution of PvP power. It's a better stat once primaries get to a threshold. That threshold is what depends on class, not what stat you stack on primary vs power.

 

[Video Master]

Lols, as in my casted spells (mind blast for eg) are an exact 1.00 second cast i.e in line with the global.

Off subject but ur so pretty

 

[Manaki]

Off subject but ur so pretty

To avoid any embarrassment I would just like to state vapriest is a dude and his twinkinfo avatar isn't actually him irl.

But Slann you are really beautiful regardless of gender!

 

[dogform]

intellect was better as owl than pvppower. and now its even better. i just cba to regem

 

[Vapriest]

To avoid any embarrassment I would just like to state vapriest is a dude and his twinkinfo avatar isn't actually him irl.

But Slann you are really beautiful regardless of gender!

Ty qt, and sad but true, but my avatar is pretty hot :3

 

[Splosion]

intellect was better as owl than pvppower. and now its even better. i just cba to regem

I guess because of the crit? Saying it's better because you're doing well with it doesn't mean there aren't better alternatives, just saying.

 

[dogform]

because of the extra crit% yes and the major fact that i did more damage with intellect than pvppower, but its not a huge difference anyway.

 

[D1RE]

I actually ran some sims on a warlock chardev I made. So far I've only tried heavy PvP power and heavy int (and the profile still needs some tuning), but PvP power beat int by a fair bit. This is not only for DPS, but also for a spell like chaos bolt, which scales ridiculously well.

 

[Hapsen]

i know they changed pvp power to scale with non healing spec's for hybrids.. but does it allso scale with absorbs? PW:S and IB are huge spells and if power doesent affect them it gives a big chunk towards int..

 

[Splosion]

because of the extra crit% yes and the major fact that i did more damage with intellect than pvppower, but its not a huge difference anyway.

There will be a sweet spot, no doubt about it.

 

[Freespirited18]

Any chardevs or armories of BiS gemmed frost mages and disc priests plox?

 

[Hypercranks]

Any chardevs or armories of BiS gemmed frost mages and disc priests plox?

Hey mate, this is my BiS frost mage. - > Rngmonsterx @ Stormscale - Community - World of Warcraft
Got a resi set aswell with decent sp/haste/resi + pvp power

 

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