US Breaking into the bracket

[Petrified]

Hey there, new to the community. Been reading for awhile working on my mage for this bracket.
Looking for some pointers on things I could do that would help me figure out the best things I could be doing to improve.

As for what I have been doing so far I’m still working on finding somebody to run islands with, polish off the rest of my quests for my other 300 pieces and I’ve started to work on farming up some legion leggos.

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/burning-blade/Academy

Always looking for some people to play with and do whatever. Basically just looking for advice on what I should prioritize for the most bang for my buck as I don’t exactly have 8 hours a day to dump into my twink, but I’m having a blast with the bracket so far and hope to see some of you guys out there.

Thanks guys

 

[Retrack]

Hey there, new to the community. Been reading for awhile working on my mage for this bracket.
Looking for some pointers on things I could do that would help me figure out the best things I could be doing to improve.

As for what I have been doing so far I’m still working on finding somebody to run islands with, polish off the rest of my quests for my other 300 pieces and I’ve started to work on farming up some legion leggos.

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/burning-blade/Academy

Always looking for some people to play with and do whatever. Basically just looking for advice on what I should prioritize for the most bang for my buck as I don’t exactly have 8 hours a day to dump into my twink, but I’m having a blast with the bracket so far and hope to see some of you guys out there.

Thanks guys

What’s your battletag I’m gonna be running some islands later today can always use a good spa to make them go faster

 

[Veechard]

Hey there, new to the community. Been reading for awhile working on my mage for this bracket.
Looking for some pointers on things I could do that would help me figure out the best things I could be doing to improve.

As for what I have been doing so far I’m still working on finding somebody to run islands with, polish off the rest of my quests for my other 300 pieces and I’ve started to work on farming up some legion leggos.

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/burning-blade/Academy

Always looking for some people to play with and do whatever. Basically just looking for advice on what I should prioritize for the most bang for my buck as I don’t exactly have 8 hours a day to dump into my twink, but I’m having a blast with the bracket so far and hope to see some of you guys out there.

Thanks guys

WELCOME!

First off let me say, great class and spec choice. You will find them to be one of the best classes for pvp.

As far as gearing, don’t beat yourself up if you can’t get into mythic ant raids and such. Mostly because a heroic piece with leech is much better than a mythic without. From what I can tell, you get about 2-3%leech, depending on the slot, with 10 slots that can be leech (8 without leech trinkets) for 24-30% leech. About 20% with 2 legos and no leech trinks.

Your best setup for instanced pvp will be legendary ring that has mastery on it, legendary legs that have mastery on them, Alchemist trinket and Psalter from Drust Quest. Cloak, bracers, gloves, Belt, Boots and 2nd ring slot try to get leech.

With that setup, you have the 2 legendarys with highest mastery, 2 best trinkets for pvp, and 6 leech pieces. Try to have your gloves and Cloak be Tomb of Sargeras tier as it’s amazing for pvp.

What I do, is bonus roll glove and Cloak tier bosses from TOS weekly, to try for leech on either, then bonus roll a mythic ant boss.

 

[Petrified]

What’s your battletag I’m gonna be running some islands later today can always use a good spa to make them go faster

Thanks guys appreciate the advice, I’m at work and won’t be able to get on until around 5 est but I’m definitely down to run some islands.

My battle tag is
RaspyCandy #1381

Feel free to add me

Definitely going to start working on those leggos and bonus rolls that’s a great plan

I already absolutely wreck people in bgs already so I can’t wait to keep gearing up and pushing those crits through the roof.

With zerking and flag debuff I’ve already one shot people with 50k haha best bracket I’ve ever been involved in.

 

[Veechard]

Thanks guys appreciate the advice, I’m at work and won’t be able to get on until around 5 est but I’m definitely down to run some islands.

My battle tag is
RaspyCandy #1381

Feel free to add me

Definitely going to start working on those leggos and bonus rolls that’s a great plan

I already absolutely wreck people in bgs already so I can’t wait to keep gearing up and pushing those crits through the roof.

With zerking and flag debuff I’ve already one shot people with 50k haha best bracket I’ve ever been involved in.

Really try for the 2 piece tomb. Ramping up to get those 4 arcane charges can be a pain, with the 2 set it instantly gives 4 charges when you POM and 8% damage done for like 5 seconds. It makes it so you don’t have to spec “Charged Up” so you can spec into the talent that makes you arcane barrage hit 10% harder per target it hits. Which is amazing with Azerite trait for increased arcane barrage damage.
Even against 1 Target it’s still 10% damage done
[doublepost=1539191882,1539191285][/doublepost]Also, Charged up takes up a global cooldown. You don’t have that 1 second global with the tier
[doublepost=1539192273][/doublepost]Also, try to have Arcane Pressure trait x2 for PVP. A lot of the traits arnt that great for arcane, but galvanized shock is good. When your done getting your 300 pieces, you will want Arcane Pressure x2 and Galvanized Shock x1.

 

[Petrified]

Really try for the 2 piece tomb. Ramping up to get those 4 arcane charges can be a pain, with the 2 set it instantly gives 4 charges when you POM and 8% damage done for like 5 seconds. It makes it so you don’t have to spec “Charged Up” so you can spec into the talent that makes you arcane barrage hit 10% harder per target it hits. Which is amazing with Azerite trait for increased arcane barrage damage.
Even against 1 Target it’s still 10% damage done
[doublepost=1539191882,1539191285][/doublepost]Also, Charged up takes up a global cooldown. You don’t have that 1 second global with the tier
[doublepost=1539192273][/doublepost]Also, try to have Arcane Pressure trait x2 for PVP. A lot of the traits arnt that great for arcane, but galvanized shock is good. When your done getting your 300 pieces, you will want Arcane Pressure x2 and Galvanized Shock x1.

We’re definitely gonna have to do some bgs together haha I was qing with a semi geared destro lock and whoever we targeted just melted instantly.

And that tier set def looks amazing going to try to run that for sure I’d imagine it’s much easier to get a full clear there than a mythic abt so that’s awesome.

Also working on some relics too have a few abt heroics but not enough to make it better than my current staff yet that’s for sure.

 

[Pressonekey]

We’re definitely gonna have to do some bgs together haha I was qing with a semi geared destro lock and whoever we targeted just melted instantly.

And that tier set def looks amazing going to try to run that for sure I’d imagine it’s much easier to get a full clear there than a mythic abt so that’s awesome.

Also working on some relics too have a few abt heroics but not enough to make it better than my current staff yet that’s for sure.

Actually, the last 3 bosses in Mythic Tomb are pretty damn hard. I’ve killed M Aggramar and Argus 3 Times now, but only killed M Maiden and the next boss once (and never killed M Kiljaeden).

 

[Veechard]

Actually, the last 3 bosses in Mythic Tomb are pretty damn hard. I’ve killed M Aggramar and Argus 3 Times now, but only killed M Maiden and the next boss once (and never killed M Kiljaeden).

Glove and Cloak tier arnt from any of those

 

[Petrified]

Ran some islands last night leveled my neck up. Ended up getting the parrot mount 12 runs in so I’m stoked about that. Next thing to work on is getting some bonus rolls and running abt and tos.

Already nearing my first 1k essence for leggo. Gotta catch up my class hall as well for the second one.

Bracket is a blast.

 

[norcal313]

As far as gearing, don’t beat yourself up if you can’t get into mythic ant raids and such. Mostly because a heroic piece with leech is much better than a mythic without. From what I can tell, you get about 2-3%leech, depending on the slot, with 10 slots that can be leech (8 without leech trinkets) for 24-30% leech. About 20% with 2 legos and no leech trinks.

While stacking leech can be very, very powerful for some classes (mage especially) once you see the stats on a 265 titanforged M Antorus piece and how it compares to a 200-210 piece from a lower raid you might reconsider taking that 40 intel. When you're talking about characters that have ~1800 primary stat, a 40 increase just from an upgrade is considerable.

If have some leftover 210-220 pieces from the BfA pre-events. The ones with leech give me about 11%. I've noticed it's not very noticeable compared to killing elites during large pulls yields the orbs that heal you to full. Staggering those give me all the health I need, but then again I can't spam aoe like other classes.

I do have a question for you, Veech. How much leech would you recommend for an arcane or fire mage for large scale pve pulls (non-islands), and for open world pvp?

 

[Veechard]

While stacking leech can be very, very powerful for some classes (mage especially) once you see the stats on a 265 titanforged M Antorus piece and how it compares to a 200-210 piece from a lower raid you might reconsider taking that 40 intel. When you're talking about characters that have ~1800 primary stat, a 40 increase just from an upgrade is considerable.

If have some leftover 210-220 pieces from the BfA pre-events. The ones with leech give me about 11%. I've noticed it's not very noticeable compared to killing elites during large pulls yields the orbs that heal you to full. Staggering those give me all the health I need, but then again I can't spam aoe like other classes.

I do have a question for you, Veech. How much leech would you recommend for an arcane or fire mage for large scale pve pulls (non-islands), and for open world pvp?

The difference between a 220 and 265 is not 40 some int. ><. Most slots it’s about 10-15. 20 for very few. For a mage, you def just wanna take the leech. No other way of healing.

Arcane all the way for islands and huge pulls. Fire is getting looks for pvp, however I think arcane still can have much more burst potential, and with disperse and 2 shimmers, along with other base mage stuff like frost nova and poly, arcane has no problem avoiding melee.

 

[Petrified]

Just from the few islands I’ve done with my shitty gear I can see the potential for arcane to just absolutely wreck almost the whole island at once if set up for it specifically

 

[norcal313]

The difference between a 220 and 265 is not 40 some int. ><.

Yeah, I specifically said 200-210. And it is on the 210 legs I have vs the 265 legs I have. The increase is 43 str and 19 secondary stats.

Either way, I was saying if you're into maximizing dps like me I will take the dps stats. However, I do believe in leech in specific circumstances, depending on the class. I have a leech set on my paladin, DK, DH, and rogue atm. For leech, rogue feels like it's the least valuable while DH seems to benefit the most.

 

[Petrified]

Your best setup for instanced pvp will be legendary ring that has mastery on it, legendary legs that have mastery on them, Alchemist trinket and Psalter from Drust Quest. Cloak, bracers, gloves, Belt, Boots and 2nd ring slot try to get leech.

Just curious on what makes you say psalter and alchemy trinket are the best trinkets?

https://www.wowhead.com/item=155564/mercys-psalter

I’m assuming that’s the trinket you’re referring too.

The trinket I’m using currently
https://www.wowhead.com/item=158224/vial-of-storms&bonus=4777:1502

I’ve had this thing crit for 12k with cooldowns on a single target and the range is massive you can snipe people who barely escaped you that you can’t reach with any other spells in your kit without wasting a blink, I’ve surprised quite a few flag carriers with it that would have normally gotten away.

 

[Veechard]

Just curious on what makes you say psalter and alchemy trinket are the best trinkets?

https://www.wowhead.com/item=155564/mercys-psalter

I’m assuming that’s the trinket you’re referring too.

The trinket I’m using currently
https://www.wowhead.com/item=158224/vial-of-storms&bonus=4777:1502

I’ve had this thing crit for 12k with cooldowns on a single target and the range is massive you can snipe people who barely escaped you that you can’t reach with any other spells in your kit without wasting a blink, I’ve surprised quite a few flag carriers with it that would have normally gotten away.

They won’t get away if during your burst period you were using epic upgraded psalter for 20% vers, combined with other stuff. I guess it’s personal opinion and how you play.

 

[Petrified]

True that’s a big %, no way to guarantee the upgrade it’s just random luck right?

 

[Veechard]

True that’s a big %, no way to guarantee the upgrade it’s just random luck right?

Correct, but even uncommon is like 15%. Don’t know if other trinks are better if you don’t get rare or epic, but I’d assume so. Like that feather trinket that gives like 250 int or so. I’m sure that’s better
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Correct, but even uncommon is like 15%. Don’t know if other trinks are better if you don’t get rare or epic, but I’d assume so. Like that feather trinket that gives like 250 int or so. I’m sure that’s better

The big thing is your going to use alchemy trinket, don’t use another trink that procs. Use an on use trink like vial of storms you mentioned. Two proc trinks have really hard time procing together

 

[Petrified]

Yeah that’s why I was rocking vial with the abt trinket so when I got that int proc I could align the stars and just make people disappear

 

[Veechard]

Yeah that’s why I was rocking vial with the abt trinket so when I got that int proc I could align the stars and just make people disappear

ABT trinket?

 

[Petrified]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=154177/norgannons-prowess
This sexy monstrosity