BoA Shoulders + Gladiator's Inscription = What?

[Rayekk]

basically these arent exploits but they are fucking cheap (not saying this out of spite...i could have em if i wanted....i just wouldnt even use em over naxx most of the time) and i think in the future, it will be seen as cheap/noobish to use these in twink vs twink situations

You're entitled to your opinion. However, if I read that right (and I’d like to think I did) it sounds like you have shoulders with Naxx enchantments on them, right? Does that mean if they remove this enchant then you’ll agree to never use those shoulders again? Somehow I think not. It smacks of hypocrisy to allow one, and condemn another that is almost identical in nature. Additionally, I’ve seen posts from people that have the shoulders and the 450 profession skill decrying them, yet they still have/are keeping them.



Seems to me that, if you have it and you think it is so OP, then you can make an example for other to follow: quit your mining/skinning/herbalism 450 professions and stop using your BoA shoulders. You can easily start over in professions, (assuming you explored the areas needed for herbs/skins/mines) and I’ll be you kept your old shoulders too. I say, put your money where your mouth is.



If nothing else, it would make a great blog story. You may even get into WoW Insider

 

[Druiddroid]

i don't see why the shoulder enchants are 'cheap' or 'exploiting.' they are COMPLETELY VALID and other twinks do have them. as a twink you need to stay updated with gear. if you got all of the stuff within a week of it coming out, great for you.



the only problem with the profession buffs/shoulder enchants, in my opinion, is that they are grandfathered, not that they have lots of stats or give great buffs. i see no issue with people having them.



in fact, even if the stuff was ungrandfathered, i probably wouldn't get them myself. too much work for me.

 

[Saucon21]

All I am going to say is this if it is a Exploit it should be removed, if it is not who cares anyone can get both the enchant and the BOA shoulders it is only time, and if it never get removed you have until next expansion to get it until something unless will come out that should be even better.

 

[2ndchance]

Im not sure what defining the BoA shoulders enchants will do.

People will still put them on, regardless of what is 'Un-Ethical'.

People will not take them off if you ask them to be fair.

Especially BoA shoulders. Why? Cause you cant just take the enchant off. Have to delete the Shoulders then grind new ones. You could report yourself I guess and ask a GM. But that takes time as well. Professions can be dropped and re learned to 300 instantly, and im not sure you will find many to do it to be 'Fair' as well.



I can see this thread exploding when/if they fix Gladiator enchants. I suggest you get a BoA item for each armor class. Then put the enchant on them so you can just mail to future twinks.

 

[Zanex]

I think it's an exploit to some degree, mainly because Blizz themselves said it's unintended. Now if they keep it I couldnt care less, but if they grandfather yet another thing that will increase the gap between old and new twinks then it's totally biased!

Even though this may be an exploit it's not that bad, Enti's was a lot worse!

 

[Druiddroid]

Even though this may be an exploit it's not that bad, Enti's was a lot worse!

well, it's bad in the 'right' hands. terrible players that have 450 herb/mining still won't have a huge impact, but those perfectly geared players that also are skilled will tear up the field, using the herb hot at the right time and making use of the mining for extra breathing room.



the enti's sword was really bad because EVERYONE could just pwn anything they wanted to with huge rend ticks. also, blizzard hotfixed the deck items because they were literally level 60+ stuff in the hands of a 29. it is clear blizzard cares about things that will harshly affect a twink bracket, but if it only has decent effects like the profession buffs or shoulder enchants, then they seem to just ignore whoever has the grandfathered stuff.

 

[ozlokike]

i am sure this has already been said but the only time when you think something is an exploit is when you don't have it; such as some peoples responses to twinks having maxed out gathering professions



Please excuse my grammar but i hope you understand my point (P.S. Just started working to get my BoA gear/enchant)

 

[Druiddroid]

i am sure this has already been said but the only time when you think something is an exploit is when you don't have it; such as some peoples responses to twinks having maxed out gathering professions

i don't have it, and i don't think it's an exploit.



what i thought was an exploit was where you could manipulate the auctionhouse/mailbox to get shoulder enchants, back in the pre-bc (and some post-bc) days. another thing i thought was an exploit was wall climbing, where you could reach areas that required specific jumping and remain out of LoS from other players. i figured it out, i did it, and i thought it was an exploit.

 

[No Mojo]

So when my friend says to me, "Hey twinking looks fun... I wanna make a druid like yours, what do I do?"



I tell him:



(1) Well, I have 450 herbalism giving me a 2000hp non-dispellable hot every 3mins. But you can't get that anymore, because they level-capped gathering.



(2) I also have 450 mining, giving me a ton of extra stamina, but you can't get that either.



(3) Oh, I have BoA shoulders with a 30sta/15resi enchant on them, but that was not as intended, so they removed it.



So my friend says, "so the best twink I can make is nowhere near what yours is given current rules?"



"Yup, pretty much."



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Dear Blizzard: either disable all the not-intended crap, or just leave it in game. The grandfathering stuff is ridiculous and ruins the game.

This.



Having to put effort into your gear (at any level) is ok. But having to speed level your main to be able to get the BoA shoulder enchant which may or may not be taken away/having to transfer mains by paying IRL money/having to pay enormous sums of gold to pay for no longer availiable shoulder enchants/professions buffs that could only be obtained with massive high level help and which can't obtained anymore now are just wrong. It's against the spirit of the game as those are about IRL money or extreme social engineering and not about the personal effort you put into the game. And what's most important: It will destroy our little twink game sooner or later because there will be people who have advantages that noone else can get anymore. This is plain wrong.

 

[Megamann]

I wouldn't say it's exploiting. They let me mail the shoulders and let me put the enchant on them so as far as I'm concerned it's not an exploit. If it were they would have removed it by now (didn't it already survive one patch?). I mean how hard could it be for them to create a new enchant that's coded properly and replace that with what's currently on the vendor?



I feel bad for people getting into twinking that don't have access to this stuff. But should I feel bad for having it myself? I guess I don't.



I do agree with the poster who said they should just make the enchant available at all levels. Have fun grinding out 10k honor at lvl 19. It's totally possible, but it won't happen over night.



I'm also all for bringing back the non capped professions, but that's for a totally different thread.

 

[Hamcake]

Yes



These were designed to not be able to be put onto BoA shoulders. They screwed up somewhere, they thought that by fixing the ZG enchants it would be enough to stop this.



This isn't just an oversight, it's a bug in the original design. A GM has said they will remove them if reported...



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Yes it's a badly worded on-the-spot answer, but I've been reporting just a few people that annoy me and I'll see what happens.