BoA items, the death of twinking imo

TaintedHalo

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So they are adding even more BoA items, not sure how many yet, but at the least a chestpiece. Anyone else think this is terrible? They are completely ruining the twinking environment, and if they keeep adding more pieces, soon it's just gonna be a bunch of 19 boa twink running around as 19's look like 60's in end game 60 gear. What a joke honestly..
 
it won't ruin twinking at all



if you have an 80 there's no issue



if you don't have an 80 but you know how to play then there isn't much of an issue
 
I guess, I personally don't have an 80, it's not my fault wotlk sucks so bad it's not even worth getting 80.. But I know a few boa items aren't bad, it hasn't been a problem, but if they KEEP adding more and more pieces, this is gonna really mess with twinking.
 
Druiddroid said:
it won't ruin twinking at all



if you have an 80 there's no issue



if you don't have an 80 but you know how to play then there isn't much of an issue
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What if you have an 80 AND you know how to play? Big issue against the latter.
 
I somewhat agree with Taintedhalo. I have an 80 but i hate doing raids and dugeons at 80, so i am stuck with what i can obtain. The stuff i do have is great! just wish they didnt make the BoAs so much better than whats already out there.
 
I don't get what's the big deal of BoAs. Ever since Blizz Developers turned to "The Revenge of the Casuals" everything gets easier every single patch. Everyone has access to them, and those that don't and just sit there and QQ instead are just lazy imo.

It's like saying Shadowfang = Death of Twinking



Accessible by Everyone? Yes

Require Work to Obtain? Yes

Gamebreaking? No.



Less QQ MOR PEWPEW GUYS



DK-80 = ~10 Days

Greens-Heroic Gear = ~8 Hours

0-40 Badges = 2 Days
 
just pretend you're doing a really long furbolg rep grind :p



But seriously, getting to 80 isnt hard and its actually pretty fun to have a max level.
 
TaintedHalo said:
I guess, I personally don't have an 80, it's not my fault wotlk sucks so bad it's not even worth getting 80.. But I know a few boa items aren't bad, it hasn't been a problem, but if they KEEP adding more and more pieces, this is gonna really mess with twinking.
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No 80 and you're gonna diss wotlk content like you know everything about it.



Constructively, shut up.



Whining about how other people have gear you didn't take the time to get means you are gonna cry about every other jump they have on you because they took the time to get it.



Take the time you've been crying about all the little things you don't have and spend it acquiring those things. Just go get it.
 
Im going to have to agree with Mummified. If you don't have an 80, its because you are lazy period. Like rip said, it takes like 10 days to level a dk up to 80. if you don't have a 55, make a hunter, or a rogue and level it up - ITS SUPER EASY!!!!! And even easier in 3.2, even though its easy enough now!!



And then you take like 2 days gearing up in heroics, and o look! EASY HEIRLOOMS!! And yeah, if you don't have an 80 you can't really say anything about wotlk. I have an 80, have raided all original wotlk content and most of ulduar - i am allowed to say im disappointed with it - which I kind of am...But thats why I play twinks now yay!
 
Twinking died with 3.1. They're just piling on at this point.



If you don't think no XP BG's are going to be nightmare's queue wise I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.



30 minute queues for 20 minute matches.
 
lol id highly disagree with the died in 3.1 part, OHS NOES LEG ARMOR!!! But we shall see what 3.2 does, I like everything except for the 20 minute limit - if they remove that from the no-xp BG's Ill be happy.
 
I'm going to go ahead and say greater than 30 min queues. This will probably be likened to pre-cross server bg's in some battlegroups, ~1hour + queues. We can only wait and see though, as for boa items being the death of twinking, I wouldn't consider it that. I do consider them annoying though, especially with the amount of bad and bored higher level players that I'm sure just slap a bunch of heirlooms on their toons, call them twinks and then queue bgs with me so they can farm mid and act like a bunch of idiots... In that regard I would consider it the "death of twinking" as it furthers the progression of an already poor and ruined image that the norm community feels twinking portrays.
 
i don't see BoA gear as the death of twinking, i see BoA making it easier for those with 80's to put what i call floating twinks into the BGs that give XP.



players without 80's, etc. however will be able to do the same thing, just their gear will change as they go from 10 thru 19, or whatever level they choose.



i have a 13 rogue non BoA'd, she will play the XP-BG, when she pops 14, i will pay 10G to turn off XP gains and farm/quest for what is needed, re-enchant as required, pay to 10G to switch back to XP-gains on.



so their will be twinks in XP BGs, new players and 80's (from QQ on wowforums) will not have a cake walk in lower PVP brackets. making a level 10 player can be done near instant. especially with friends/guildies that have passenger mounts. a fresh 20 can also be done near instant.



players that popped twinks from 19 to 20, or 29 to 30.....may be the best geared to start in the XP BGs.



twinking will change with 3.2. que times for non-XP BGs may be the death of current twinks.
 
BoAs suck in that its killing blue gear prices. I have an 80.. why the hell would I pay 300 gold for a TBJ when I can just get the BoA one? There wont be a market soon because Blizz is stupid in that it associates use with popularity. BoA's dont attract new customers, it makes old players reroll new classes. Thats not expanding at all. BoA Chests seem to be a stupid idea because they are sooo easy to come by. Shoulders are rare, trinkets are very rare, weapons that are well adapted to the class are rare. But chests? Come on.. we all know there are great chests at every level. Ultimately every twink is going to start looking the same and that makes me sad. I like having a Tree Bark Jacket.. but the BoA is going to be better and I am going to be forced to get it =/
 
i feel boa's are bad for twinking because they really ruin the spirit on twinking. i mean pre bc you could twink yourself easily at level 19 with no main or anything. but the more boa's they add the more you need an 80 to gear your twink. i have never leveled to 80 and never plan to, and this is anoying me to no end. it might be time to quit with the longer ques coming with shorter games and more items ill never get. starwars the old republic cant come soon enough lol. (it has the best trailer ever btw)
 
its funny how people still say that blizzard is not thinking of twinking when they are clearly trying to give us more gears, give us more fair ness in BGs at low level and even enable us the NO-XP gain which clearly says:"There you got it twinks, enjoys your easy grind of items and the world exploration as low levels without the worry about XP"



since 3.1 blizzard as been thinking of us. they know we are here, they never have done anything against us, and now they wanna do something for us. i really think this patch makes up for everything bad int his game. us twinks gets what we wanted, and high level gets what they wanted...



yes, unlike what people think 3.2 at high level is exactly what we wanted... blizzard having finally understood that the game was bullshit... exemples ? sure ! in order to gear yourself up, you had to do heroics, then do 10 man raids... problems, besides naxx... none others were necessary. since all raids of 10 man had the very same gears. no more linear pattern like TBC had with raids... all this was giving you emblem of heroism. see the problem with that... 10 man raids and 5 man heroics giving the very same emblem ? am i the only seeing the faults here ? now onto 25 man raids, giving away a new type of emblem... emblems of valor. to get tier 7.5. 25 man raids are hard as hell to get into, causing people to not be able to get there and the emblem of heroism could only get you 2 pieces. out of 14 !



conclusion, tier 7.5 was attainable only by doing the 3 raids we had.

comes tier 8, new problem at the horinzon, again new emblems arriving in. problem only 2 dungeons offers them... ulduar and emalon in VOA. no way to gain tier 8 for people that aren't geared full tier 7.5 to begin with. all this in the end was causing PVE to be going down... with 3.2 all of this comes back to TBC times... separating 10 man and 25 man into separate dungeons just like they said it should have been. and getting rid of the first two emblems to leave only 1 in place, just like badges of justice were back in the TBC time.



its not just twinking, its the solution to a constant problem they were adding in wotlk, all that cause they couldn't make the features they were saying we should of had back in the WOTLK release.



imagine gearing a character in full tier 9 by just doing heroic dungeons !

isn't this worth creating a 80 to gain the emblems for BOAs ?



back to our subject...

not having a 80 for BOA is pure lazyness on your part... i understand the fun factor of the 80 not being the same and the fact that its not actually very good and i agree... but going 80 and yelling about the others having BOA and giving them an unfair advantage is clearly biased by the single fact that you want to own people... and having people more geared cause they have more guts then you is something people shouldn't do !



take an exemple... i have no AGM nor any lucky fishing hat on my twink... do i brag when i go against a fully twinked charcater who owns me cause of that ? the answer is no, because i know that i could get it if i really wanted to. its not his fault... its mine only for being too lazy ! same happens to you people who brag about BOA... you're too lazy and all you see is the fact that you have more work to do and you dont want that to happen !



deal with it !



i'm all for the next changes...

it helps everyone in every brackets and every aspect of the game. why shouldn't it become ?







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by the way, open your eyes people... twinks are already the same everywhere !

everyone has lucky fishing hats or googles...

everyone has TBJ, defias lether chest

everyone got the same boots

everyone got the same AGM

its all the same, for we all want the best in slots...

twinks aren't made to be different. they are made to be the best we can at that level !



i say...

Evocate, open your god damn eyes... we're already all the same here !
 
I honestly can't see what your problem is, I put lots of effort into making my twink best geared, that does include boring heroic farming and waiting for chest to spawn in grubashi. If you can't put your effort into it then whine on forus about BoA gear being OP then u realy should reconsider about twinking. Gearing up your twink is not for lazy ppl.
 
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