Chops
Soccer Dad
hey man, i dont like stealing, so do i need to send you a check or are you just cool letting me live rent free in that brain of yours?
Blizz rumored to be " Nuking Twinks from orbit " in upcoming TW's
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Eleven
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Instead of a check maybe you could pay me by carrying me thru a TW dungeon.
My IO and parses arent all that great so its tough to find groups, tryin to get that AOTW achievement.
Robo
Veteran
What I'm saying is that it would take just a handful of people to fix these imbalances, but ActiBlizz is incompetent. The ability to turn exp off should exist because older expansions full of useful content exist. In an ideal scenario, there'd be some kind of incentive for people to lock exp at 30, 35, 40, etc to experience older content and possibly be the only way to unlock certain rewards, instead of max lvl players steamrolling it.
Chops
Soccer Dad
I get this and Im deeply sympathetic to the idea that people should get to go back and experience old content as more than a one-shot fest. Thats stuffs fun. Man, what I wouldnt give to go back and really experience 10 man Kara and ZA. What a blast. And I really dig your idea of making it necessary to lock xp to experience that stuff and get rewards, thats kinda cool. Like Herald of the Titans. Thats neat.
But when taken with all the problems locking xp also causes, I'm not sure thats the right answer. Its too late, now. But there are better ways to handle that. Its a real shame, because if someone who actually loved all the old content had been in charge, they could have done something really neat with it.
Bakedaflol
The Arthritic Arch-Druid
While I agree with the sentiment... Wtf you mean? no they haven't.
coolbank
Legend
true i havent kept up with retail since legion its dead to me lol (yes im a classic andy ah well)While I agree with the sentiment... Wtf you mean? no they haven't.
BANKONE
Grandfathered
It’s a shame you missed the golden era of 20s in BFA and SL
Played since cata but I’d have to say those expacs were prime.
Bakedaflol
The Arthritic Arch-Druid
I do dabble in the old 19s every now and then too
Mostly just doing end game now tho..Though it's nice to have content, I very much prefered the pre SL era of twinking
coolbank
Legend
eh i dont have interest in f2p bracket to much toxicity from when i played 24s i just want to chill now a days make dumb 10s on older versions and got a 1 of 1 bugged 15 dodge haliscan for my 1
i did play my 10 hunters in wrath when the ques did pop the 19s were actually chill with me which was amazing
if you want to replicate the 1 of 1 in classic tbc enchant it with 15 def then and if they migrate it onwards it should bug the same way to be 15 and un nerfed
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orcgazmatron
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It's reported for the next Turbulent Timeways event, due later on this summer.
Don't know if it'll go live or not, but the 11's shit in Blizz's Wheaties- but good the last time around.
warcraftisgood
Member
it's going live next next week i think, so this week (tbc) is last week of old tw.
just play 70 dhs now for rushing. they're way better than 11s now. 11 is a novelty
just play 70 dhs now for rushing. they're way better than 11s now. 11 is a novelty
shanker
OG
start at TW changes, appears they will target gems enchants gear, with bosses scaling to individual player
i presume the bosses will scale different to non tanks in groups, which may casue issues when a fury comes in as a tank. i can see complaints if low level tanks become worthless causing wipes
there was TW twinking before done by higher levels using sets of older max socket gear, blizz did mostly stealth nerfs as it was not a glaring issue for them like what started in TWW expac.
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orcgazmatron
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Shitstorm inc.
cletus
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Has anyone tried the changes on 11.1.7 PTR? How bad is it?
The real problem here is that scaling has been broken since, well, forever. Basically you start out strong and get slowly weaker as you level. And then you get gear to get stronger at max level.
Before content scaling, nobody really noticed because it didn't matter. Like you go and quest in Northern STV in Classic at 30 and you have to be careful. Go back at 40 and you slaughter things. You're weaker against level 40 mobs than you were against level 30 mobs at level 30 but you have no real basis for comparison for that.
But now? It's so obvious because the content scales and there's really no reward for levelling. Instead you're punished. This was even more apparent in MoP Remix. Level 10-40? Fun. 60-70? Sucks. It's why people found the mailbox XP token trick to avoid the sucky levels. And you needed quite a few gear upgrades at 70 before you got good again.
It's my biggest fear with the upcoming Legion Remix that Blizzard "fixes" the XP token thing and you have a huge sucky period in the middle of you journey.
Anyway, many (myself included) warned Blizzard that adding low levels to TW dungeons would be incredibly broken. They ignored it. The game simply isn't designed for level 10s and 79s to be in the same group. That 79 is simply a waste of space. This change also killed the TW gearing community for literally no reason.
I don't want a TW dungeon that takes me 25 minutes to do. I just won't do it. Like at all. And they upped the TW badge rewards from 10 to 25? Who cares? I'll do regular dungeons instead. And I think I won't be the only one. TW dungeons were never optimal for levelling anyway.
As for badges, another bad change was the weekly only giving 200 badges instead of 500 for the 2nd and subsequent character to do it on the same bnet account. It didn't affect me. I had like 400k TW badges already (although I'm down to ~150k with all the cosmetics they added). I'd hate to save up for that now.
Just like the scaling hotfix on Dastardly Duos (which, as an aside, seems to be the most pointless event ever), fun was detected. And then nerfed.
I'm messing around with twinks for fun. Retail is just a Legion Remix waiting room for me. If twinks suck and TW sucks, I'll just either not play or not buy Midnight and just farm old achievements and cosmetics.
Anyway, I'm absolutely they are going to mess up the anti-twink scaling up. I haven't looked but I'm guessing there'll be a lot of one-shots. We may find the meta shifts so you either don't use enchants anymore and/or you use TW gear instead of socketed gear. It's a bit like how in MoP Remix, you could make the game significantly easier by deleting your jewelry.
And let's not forget that twinks were at least in part a response to how terrible 71-79 felt to level. If you played week 2 of TWW, it was so much worse than DF.
Or the meta will become level 70 twinks, which are arguably the meta already but harder to create than 10-11 twinks. And also temporary. The 70 twinks will be gone with the Midnight release.
Eleven
Member
ILVL is back to what it was pre drop