Bis 2H Weapon for Warriors

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I am a bit confused. Which one should be the Bis 2hand/1H weapon for warriors - fury and arms.

Crow Wing Reaper with its 3 sockets seems to be the obvious choice. But I have seem people using the TW Runeblade of Baron Rivendare, Ironfoe.

What is your choice?
 
There's a thread where someone has done extensive testing on this.

The TW weapons are clearly superior. They're ilvl 60 at level 11 (56 at 10). Current BIS seems to be Baron Rivendare's Sword from TW Live Strath and probably any other TW 2H. I have one from Zul'Farrak, for example.

The 3 socket weapons from TBC just can't compete with the extra damage.
 
cletus said:
The TW weapons are clearly superior. They're ilvl 60 at level 11
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This is the 20s forum

I have the Epic Rivendare sword, the TW rivendare sword, the crow wing reaper on my F2P (among many others lol)

They're so super close that functionally it doesn't matter. But on my build at least, the answer is TW Rivendare by about 5 points of dmg per attack (fwiw, the epic rivendare and crow wing are equal). Verse and weapon dmg just out perform and I've got enough crit from gear to not miss it from the Crow Wing. And because I specifically am too lazy to worry about SL gems, the move speed is quite valuable to me.

Speaking of gems... because vers works on a %, the more str/AP you have, the more valuable it is. So a build that gemmed pure str would get a bit more value out of Barons. But a build with less str because of SL gems or more 2/2 gems might actually see Crow Wing be more valuable. I don't know where that inflection point is, though. Whent eh servers come back up, I might see if I can find out or at least have a decent guess.

This also means if you run Crusader (why wouldnt you) and have str proc or on-use trinkets, they get more value if you're using Barons.

So in my case, I'm at ~200 str, I have a Daelos, I run crusader, I have gobs of crit elsewhere, I dont have SL gems... TW barons is BIS. But that said, I run Crow Wing on my (admittedly neglected) vet, and dont really experience a difference. And there is something undeniably cool about a triple socket weapon.
 
cletus said:
There's a thread where someone has done extensive testing on this.

The TW weapons are clearly superior. They're ilvl 60 at level 11 (56 at 10). Current BIS seems to be Baron Rivendare's Sword from TW Live Strath and probably any other TW 2H. I have one from Zul'Farrak, for example.

The 3 socket weapons from TBC just can't compete with the extra damage.
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Are u talking about this one:

https://xpoff.com/threads/did-a-nak...r-tw-2h-weapons-as-an-11-fury-warrior.100620/
 
Chops said:
I don't know where that inflection point is, though. Whent eh servers come back up, I might see if I can find out or at least have a decent guess.
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Its about 155-160 str. Less than that and the Crow Wing Reaper will be a better choice. More than that and Barons will be better.

I just removed and replaced gear and looked at tooltips though. So this is just a rough proof-of-concept more than anything. The higher your strength, the more you should value Barons, assuming youre happy with your crit rating
 
I've, admittedly, spent way too much time looking at this as well.

From a purely tooltip perspective I think it's
TW Rune > +3 socket wep > Epic Rune

I'm pretty sure you could run TW and Epic Rune, at least you can with the Sul', but it doesn't look to be BiS anyways.
The 3 socket axe from Hills should be better than Crow, just because we have so much crit already.

For Fury
OH damage is calculated from the OH wep, I checked that yesterday. So the TW ones with high damage do play a factor on abilities like Raging Blow.
The problem is haste, it's not going to show up on the tooltip. Is it worth as much as vers, maybe, maybe not. But it's certainly not 0.
It improves uptime on some Trinkets. It gets you more Bloodthirst, which is more Enrages.
I've been going double TW haste axes and gemming pure str, the fierce gems are so expensive...
Here is endgame stat priority, for what it's worth
https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/fury-warrior-pve-dps-stat-priority
https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/fury-warrior-pvp-stat-priority-gear-and-trinkets
The talent options just aren't great at 20 for Fury. I'm heavy Bloodthirst, it seems to be OK. Hard to mastery stack though with the BC slot gear being so good.
Here is what I have so far
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/us/bleeding-hollow/dizzydiesel
 
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If you have at least 30% crit TW Runeblade is the best.

Crow Wing Reaper is barely noticeable inferior but if you lack a socket for a SL gem to cap speed for PVP (inside the bg you need 171 rating to have 49% speed because we are scaled to level 29) and if you are looking for a more balanced setup instead to go glass cannon with the +3 strength gems it's a solid option.
 
TW rivendare isnt always gonna be so accessible, and crow will always be there, recently found on my blood dk that TW rivendare does better dps for me than crow with 3 +3 str gems, and with crusader. Also a nice addition to what the SL gems do, although nowhere near as much. I recommend getting the TW rivendare, at least for arms, but for fury you could even go TW and reg rivendare blades
 
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