General Besting the Auction House - A gold making guide
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Lost in Gnomer
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Lost in Gnomer
Gold cap back in WotLK was a weird number, around 230k. In Cataclysm they upped it to 999k, and it's still 999k. I've made several times the "Cataclysm" gold cap.
(Btw, did you get my TI message? If not, add my Skype: Licentiouswow)
Silinrul
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I think this statement might be a bit deterring to some. From what I've read I'd think you would have a different picture on what 'expensive' is. Lol but either way the word choice is misleading. I'll explain my reasoning to others looking into the 'Ore Shuffle.'
Firstly Jewelcrafting is actually one of the least expensive to level since uncut old gems are typically completely useless for their original purposes and are sold for a few gold, if not less, a piece. JC is unlike other crafting professions where at each stage there are only a few choices of materials at each threshold that can be used for leveling purposes. With JC there is a plethora to choose from at many stages, thus it is easy to choose a cheap item to make for levels. You also do not have to buy or obtain through rep/drop end game recipes/patterns excluding meta gems which are optional tbh. Yes you do have to use current gems on a daily cool-down to "discover" new patterns, but this does not need to be done with the gems that are worth more. Once you have discovered all of the different cuts for a certain gem type, you can still use those types of gems for your cool-down. You will just learn a new cut for another gem type. Thus, depending on your server's market, you can buy uncut cheap gems such as River's Heart instead of using more expensive gems such as Vermillion Onyx.
Lastly the ore prices and gem prices typically reflect on each other. I say typically because my main server's market is currently in the gutters and has been for quite some time, but not because of lack of people but because of gold sellers (Which is a good idea for another chapter - 'How to deal with gold sellers ruining your market." Lol I could even go for some other opinions on that!) Anyways, I say that because if your ore is selling for high then your gems should be selling for high. Yes, we can all argue about the plethora of reasons for the overabundance and falling/unstable prices of gems but that's not something someone starting out should have to worry about. If you do, then you might as well transfer or pick a different market. What I'm trying to say, and failing miserably at it, is that you can start with 0g 0s 0c if necessary. To make things easier I'd say maybe a good 10k would put you in the right direction with room to spare if starting from scratch.
All in all I'd use the term 'sizable starting capita' very lightly.
P.S. 5.4 was very disappointing. WTB another expansion, I'm bored.
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Thanks for the feedback, I appreciate it
And I totally agree with you on your last point, I've hardly being doing any goldmaking, it's pretty boring atm.Anyways, in my perspective, leveling JC isn't expensive. Believe me, my view on what is expensive is rather twisted. Why I said it takes a sizeable starting capita, is because I was trying to approach it from the readers point of view. As you said, 10k goes a long way in leveling and starting with JC, but for most people 10k is a lot lot. Hell, for most people 5k is a lot! That's why I said sizeable, as for most people 10k is quite sizeable. In my personal experience, leveling JC is costly. I haven't leveled it in the past 2 patches (lowbie gem prices may have dropped) but whenever I did, I easily spent 15k. I was actually thinking about writing a page about posting time, posting behaviors, reset scans and how to optimise them, but that might be a bit too complicated. It's nice to see a fellow gold-maker tho! You don't come by them too often. Anyhow, I think I'll keep the sizeable starting capita, but put what I think is the average spending price is behind it, giving people a clue.
I want a new profession! And other professions should get more profitable, I'm always prospecting prospecting prospecting...
Silinrul
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Thanks for the feedback, I appreciate it
Anyways, in my perspective, leveling JC isn't expensive. Believe me, my view on what is expensive is rather twisted. Why I said it takes a sizeable starting capita, is because I was trying to approach it from the readers point of view. As you said, 10k goes a long way in leveling and starting with JC, but for most people 10k is a lot lot. Hell, for most people 5k is a lot! That's why I said sizeable, as for most people 10k is quite sizeable. In my personal experience, leveling JC is costly. I haven't leveled it in the past 2 patches (lowbie gem prices may have dropped) but whenever I did, I easily spent 15k. I was actually thinking about writing a page about posting time, posting behaviors, reset scans and how to optimise them, but that might be a bit too complicated. It's nice to see a fellow gold-maker tho! You don't come by them too often. Anyhow, I think I'll keep the sizable starting capita, but put what I think is the average spending price is behind it, giving people a clue.
I want a new profession! And other professions should get more profitable, I'm always prospecting prospecting prospecting...
I guess you do have a point in some aspects. Though my pov is coming from years spent not caring about gold as all since everything was always guild supplied, but depending on the year I would at least have 10 - 50k sitting around just from playing the game. Not even dailies, as I despised them and still do. Then to spending 99% of my time in game in front of an ah hitting two buttons.
I have thought about focusing on another profession, and/or swapping my concentration to the opposite faction. Mainly because of the sudden rise of gold sellers who make it their mission to test my TSM minimums in order to make my life more difficult. While from time to time buying them out makes for some good anger management, having to try to resell hundreds of their gems before they can restock is near impossible without REAL content releases.
On the new topic idea; I think the understanding wouldn't be too complicated, but the execution for someone starting out definitely would be. A watered down version would probably be better, just mainly focusing on best sale times and how not to back down or give up (which is hard nowadays with TSM becoming more popular). The biggest complaint I get from people is that at some horrible time on the worst day of the week they couldn't sell anything or they didn't make much of a profit. Then they would be completely baffled when the next day their mailbox was exploding with sales. Unfortunately people still believe it to be some big secret mystery and they just got lucky that day.
P.s. Sometimes I feel like the only person who gets excited when blizzard takes all the servers down for hours for no apparent reason instead of just doing rolling restarts. Lol
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I guess you do have a point in some aspects. Though my pov is coming from years spent not caring about gold as all since everything was always guild supplied, but depending on the year I would at least have 10 - 50k sitting around just from playing the game. Not even dailies, as I despised them and still do. Then to spending 99% of my time in game in front of an ah hitting two buttons.
I have thought about focusing on another profession, and/or swapping my concentration to the opposite faction. Mainly because of the sudden rise of gold sellers who make it their mission to test my TSM minimums in order to make my life more difficult. While from time to time buying them out makes for some good anger management, having to try to resell hundreds of their gems before they can restock is near impossible without REAL content releases.
On the new topic idea; I think the understanding wouldn't be too complicated, but the execution for someone starting out definitely would be. A watered down version would probably be better, just mainly focusing on best sale times and how not to back down or give up (which is hard nowadays with TSM becoming more popular). The biggest complaint I get from people is that at some horrible time on the worst day of the week they couldn't sell anything or they didn't make much of a profit. Then they would be completely baffled when the next day their mailbox was exploding with sales. Unfortunately people still believe it to be some big secret mystery and they just got lucky that day.
P.s. Sometimes I feel like the only person who gets excited when blizzard takes all the servers down for hours for no apparent reason instead of just doing rolling restarts. Lol
I like sudden server resets, it usually means they are fixing something goldselling related (Dupes/bots/etc). I must personally say that I do not like goldsellers, as they often crash the servers prices, but I just love Mining bots who dump 100rds of stacks of GOI on the AH. I always just buy everything, store it away and when they start banning bots and the GOI supply dries up, I still have plenty :3. I tend to spend most of time behind the AH aswell, but I haven't recently. I kinda have to get into gold-making again, but there isn't really anything I want to buy, and I have plenty of gold to fund my twinks. Swapping between Horde and Alliance is very profitable. Wherever I do my gold-making, I have toons at Alliance and Horde. Often prices or a certain mat are much more expensive at the other faction (like Living Steel) and you can easily double/triple your money. Two accounts helps for switching between factions.
I must say tho, is that I love it if people are driving the prices down of gems dramatically. I'll just buy them all in a reset scan and store them away or throw them on again. I never have a problem getting my gems sold, no matter what the quantity. I never post more than 20 of a certain gem tho, as I found that just dumping all the gems generally drives the price down a lot more and it takes a lot more to repost when you get undercut. As for post times, I see that aswell. I tend to buy all the gems late Tuesday night (Wednesday is reset day in EU) when the prices of gems are down down down! I notice that most people just slam their gems onto the AH, not caring about the price/what time it is. I guess a short piece on that might be clearing things up.
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I would say friendly bump, but dude jacked my guild bank of all its contents.... Anyone know the whereabouts of Whatgoesup???
Really can't understand his need to steal what little stuff I had saved, I mean check this thread, he made 600k in a day, It would take me several months to save that kind of money...
I even met the dude IRL for a spliff in Dam... Really sad cos GM said his account wasn't compromised, so... Seems you can't even trust those you consider good friends in this game /sadface
Really can't understand his need to steal what little stuff I had saved, I mean check this thread, he made 600k in a day, It would take me several months to save that kind of money...
I even met the dude IRL for a spliff in Dam... Really sad cos GM said his account wasn't compromised, so... Seems you can't even trust those you consider good friends in this game /sadface
Shamatix
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Whatgoesup gave his account away months ago to his brother and doesnt play wow anylonger, so I bet it's his brother that took it all? Anyways he plays a bit dota 2 now days iirc if he isnt busy studying, you should be able to catch him on skype now and then.
Kilda
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Well dayum... Thanks for the headsup.
I mentioned something on Skype last night before I wrote the ticket. My own fault tho.. I always gotta learn the hard way