Best Queuing Methods

Hi

Managed to get into Alterac Valley on Monday. We lost again, but it wasn't a massive thrashing.

Keep queueing for Alterac Valley!
 
Kincaide said:
If I may, I think there is going to be a perpetual misperception of something being "wrong", and a general dissatisfaction as a result, for as long as people continue to hold "the way things were before" as the standard by which the way things now are measured. The simple and unavoidable fact is that prior to WoD, the 20-29 bracket had two choices. Now, the 20-29 bracket has five: four battlegrounds and skirmishes. With 5/2 as many options as before, we must expect that queues will be at least 5/2 as long--or longer still depending on the factorial nature of increasing options.

So any lament that things aren't the way they were, and any effort to return things to the way they were, is ignoring the fact that the landscape has changed. And many if not most people like a combination of activities that is different from the combination you or you or I happen to like. so asking anyone to not queue for the things they like a) isn't fair, and b) won't actually help.

I hope and wish that going forward from here, everyone simply learns to accept that the cost of having more options is having to wait a little longer for other folks who also like that option. We don't live in the past, in general as human beings, and you can never make something "the way it used to be". Please just be happy with the options we have, and learn to accept that queue times have changed, for good. It's not the first time we've had changes like this, and it won't be the last.
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I made this thread for THE fastest way to get pops. Obviously no one is going to follow it. No one has to either. It's fine. It's just in theory and it's there for the record. If you like YOUR way of queuing, it's all up to you. Queue skirmishes or random if you prefer it that way.
Masara said:
Hi

Managed to get into Alterac Valley on Monday. We lost again, but it wasn't a massive thrashing.

Keep queueing for Alterac Valley!
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Exactly! Why only queue one day when queuing every day would get you more Alterac Valleys.
 
Crayonla said:
I found a good way to cut the waiting time for WSG queueing: switch from 20-29 to 10-19 bracket. Queues are so much faster.
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You will forgive me, I'm sure, if I don't believe you. This just sounds too much like a 19's ploy to steal players back from F2Ps to the dying bracket that they abandoned in droves.

I'm not saying that's what you're trying to do with this post. I'm just saying that's exactly what it sounds like you're trying to to with this post.
 
Kincaide said:
You will forgive me, I'm sure, if I don't believe you. This just sounds too much like a 19's ploy to steal players back from F2Ps to the dying bracket that they abandoned in droves.

I'm not saying that's what you're trying to do with this post. I'm just saying that's exactly what it sounds like you're trying to to with this post.
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Queues for WSG lvl10-19 is faster than lvl20-29. I get very WSG pops below 5mins (most of the time in less than 3mins at EVERY time). There are so logical reasons to that:
- There is no Arena/ Skirmishes
- There are only 3BGs available for that bracket: Southshore vs Turenhill, AB and WSG
- There are a lot of lvl10-14 ppl: there are no random Dungeons queues too available to those lvls. So, many ppl found out is more fun to do BGs than questing until lvl15
- There are between 1 and 3 F2P players on each side in an average single game

Also, a F2P player can max his lvl in this bracket: lvl19, instead than being block at the lower lvl on the other bracket (lvl20). As soon I will hit lvl20, I will either delete the character or/and create a new one.

It's possible to be viable in the bracket lvl10-19 as F2P.
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/aerie-peak/Wushustyle/simple

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_G29BNzUFeQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14dMjohXa2s
 
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Oh, you didn't indicate that you were talking about 10-19 XP-on. That would change my response entirely.
 
Kincaide said:
Oh, you didn't indicate that you were talking about 10-19 XP-on. That would change my response entirely.
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I though you knew I was F2P from the beginning?

I want to stay as long as I can in this bracket. So, I choosed carefully the quests I did: I only choosed one which worth improving gear (I avoided all the chain quests). Beside by capping a flag (which give 390xp), I don't gain any xp. I started to play WSG at this bracket at lvl10 (1x "xp-bar" from lvl11) and I didn't do bad at all.
 
Tryptozzar said:
Lobotömy @ Boulderfist - Community - World of Warcraft

I'm fully F2P, looms were grinded (ground? not a native speaker) out before i dinged lvl 7. That's commitment right there.
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I understand what you did but you spent a lot of time by doing Darkmoon Fair grinding. On my side, I created this character sooner this week (or maybe last saturday). I just wanted to spend the minimum of grinding time to be viable enough in WSG. By keeping this same lvling model, every 2weeks I could create a character and try all the class, having fun in WSG by having the less queueing time.
 
Crayonla said:
I understand what you did but you spent a lot of time by doing Darkmoon Fair grinding. On my side, I created this character sooner this week (or maybe last saturday). I just wanted to spend the minimum of grinding time to be viable enough in WSG. By keeping this same lvling model, every 2weeks I could create a character and try all the class, having fun in WSG by having the less queueing time.
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Notice that both looms are PvP looms, buyable with honor. I'm not sure if I even have the DMF treasure guide on him. The main grind was the loom grind, it took approximately 7h total (spread over multiple days). Stendel's was much easier in comparison. If you enter WSG at lvl 10 with whites, you have about 630 hp and you can't do shit (personal experience + observations from the xp on bracket). All others will have hp ranging from 1.2k to 1.7k. I think it is worth taking some more time getting low ilvl greens to as many slots as possible, which maks you that much more effective.
 
Tryptozzar said:
Notice that both looms are PvP looms, buyable with honor. I'm not sure if I even have the DMF treasure guide on him. The main grind was the loom grind, it took approximately 7h total (spread over multiple days). Stendel's was much easier in comparison. If you enter WSG at lvl 10 with whites, you have about 630 hp and you can't do shit (personal experience + observations from the xp on bracket). All others will have hp ranging from 1.2k to 1.7k. I think it is worth taking some more time getting low ilvl greens to as many slots as possible, which maks you that much more effective.
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I looked up very quick for your looms, I assumed you got theses from DMF.

Here was my 1st WSG as lvl10. I got the most of green items I could get and the result is viable at the end.

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Crayonla said:
I looked up very quick for your looms, I assumed you got theses from DMF.

Here was my 1st WSG as lvl10. I got the most of green items I could get and the result is viable at the end.

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When I first looked at the armory, i didn't notice the greens. My bad. However, I'd go with a bit extra effort and get an amulet (malachite pentant, 2 agi, lvl 13), at lest one ring (2 stam one at lvl 12) and flying tiger goggles (engineering 100 needs lvl 10). I'd probably also get Stendel's.
I agree that your current build is viable, but since more often than not opposite team has more loomed people, one wants (needs even) to be as powerful as one possibly can be in this early level. I don't know how US bgs are, but in EU 10-19 xp on bracket people are either loomed head to toe or lvl 10 questers with a couple white pieces. There usually is no middle ground.
 
Tryptozzar said:
When I first looked at the armory, i didn't notice the greens. My bad. However, I'd go with a bit extra effort and get an amulet (malachite pentant, 2 agi, lvl 13), at lest one ring (2 stam one at lvl 12) and flying tiger goggles (engineering 100 needs lvl 10). I'd probably also get Stendel's.
I agree that your current build is viable, but since more often than not opposite team has more loomed people, one wants (needs even) to be as powerful as one possibly can be in this early level. I don't know how US bgs are, but in EU 10-19 xp on bracket people are either loomed head to toe or lvl 10 questers with a couple white pieces. There usually is no middle ground.
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In this video, it shows:
- short queue time for WSG
- Inspect a P2P WW lvl14 and compare it with my gear

At this moment, I am lvl16 and got new green gear:
Wushustyle @ Aerie Peak - Community - World of Warcraft
 
lookisi said:
You're an ally hunter, you aren't allowed to form opinions on hordes gameplay! (joking manner) In all seriousness though don't expect to get much serious replies when critiquing horde on this site
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It's not a Horde v Alliance argument. The fact of the matter is that Horde has WAY more 29s than Alliance does, that all of the major 29 guilds decided to form on Horde knowing they wouldn't have any competition from 29 Alliance guilds. To simplify this into a Horde v Alliance argument is to overlook those statistical facts. And also, the difference between a 20 and a 29 is far, far greater than the difference between a hunter and another class... I just assume anyone who has been paying attention in WoD knows this.
 
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