Best gems for P Pally?

Mattymatt726

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Are Str/Stamina in play for Pally dungeon soloing or is +2/2 Str/Haste so much more preferable? I can't find it now, but believe somone had a good post about using Str/Crit as well. My AH has only +3 Str and x2 Str/Haste, so i have to make my 1st JC and don't want to waste time/gold on wrong gems. Thank you.
 
Prot can pretty much solo most stuff without gems so it's up to you what you're after... faster kills or more pulls?

Straight STR gives better DPS and bigger heals, so that's a plus.
2/2 STR & stam is more efficient and a better "oops" insurance, so that's a plus.
2/2 STR & haste gives cooldown reduction on many abilities, so more DPS and quicker HP generation... so that's a plus.

It's all got upside, just up to you what you want. "Best" isnt always cut and dry... I used talasite gems before the nerf cuz pally DPS is pretty OP already, worked great. Also had one with 2/2 STR & stam... also worked great. Cant say I could say which is "better" cuz both killed stuff as intended.

I will say that single-target is the weakest part of the dungeon solo so you can choose to focus on improving that OR you can focus on bigger pulls to get to those 1v1 fights faster and save time that way... point is, I'm not much help here. ;)
 
Warglave said:
Prot can pretty much solo most stuff without gems so it's up to you what you're after... faster kills or more pulls?

Straight STR gives better DPS and bigger heals, so that's a plus.
2/2 STR & stam is more efficient and a better "oops" insurance, so that's a plus.
2/2 STR & haste gives cooldown reduction on many abilities, so more DPS and quicker HP generation... so that's a plus.

It's all got upside, just up to you what you want. "Best" isnt always cut and dry... I used talasite gems before the nerf cuz pally DPS is pretty OP already, worked great. Also had one with 2/2 STR & stam... also worked great. Cant say I could say which is "better" cuz both killed stuff as intended.

I will say that single-target is the weakest part of the dungeon solo so you can choose to focus on improving that OR you can focus on bigger pulls to get to those 1v1 fights faster and save time that way... point is, I'm not much help here. ;)
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Yeah, i kinda figuerd P Pally was good defensively that the little bit longer time on CD was = to having the extra Stamina since he could last longer. I just wanted to see what option seemed to be best.
 
Honestly, I'm sure you'll be fine with whatever you can buy. Not sure what dungeons are gonna give you trouble that one gem set would fix over another regarding stam... DPS is usually my issue as far as convenience goes.

I only use them to run my 20's on another account to avoid legacy loot tho, so I dont know every solo encounter.

edit- make sure you look into https://www.wowhead.com/item=137362 and that might mitigate some of the stam loss on a difficult encounter.
 
Strength/Haste gems & Haste/Vers, all the way. You want haste in the 25-30% range.
Stacking stam isn't needed as you're self-healing & cru-procs will be readily availible.
 
As plate user, it's pretty hard to gain Haste as secondary stat. As an Example, My Lightforged Draenei with the gdf ilvl44 neck with 26 Haste and a full Plate stuff give me 25% Haste. Without the neck, you'll probably gain around 15% Haste, 20% in my opinion with maximum investment.
To giving you an idea, 15% Haste put your Avenger's Shield at 13 sec, and Judgment and Crusader Strike at 5.2, 25% gives in the same order 12 sec and 4.8 sec (so 20% gives you 12.5 sec and 5 sec).
Don't get me wrong, Haste in pretty awesome at 10, but unless you're playing Holy Paladin, 15% Haste is enough, 20% if you're fully dedicate into Haste, but 25% will be not as good as you would expected.

If any other question, don't hesitate!
 
orcgazmatron said:
Strength/Haste gems & Haste/Vers, all the way. You want haste in the 25-30% range.
Stacking stam isn't needed as you're self-healing & cru-procs will be readily availible.
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Now this statement is with the fact that Crusader has finally been nerfed to 14 str/34 heal?
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pokspell said:
As plate user, it's pretty hard to gain Haste as secondary stat. As an Example, My Lightforged Draenei with the gdf ilvl44 neck with 26 Haste and a full Plate stuff give me 25% Haste. Without the neck, you'll probably gain around 15% Haste, 20% in my opinion with maximum investment.
To giving you an idea, 15% Haste put your Avenger's Shield at 13 sec, and Judgment and Crusader Strike at 5.2, 25% gives in the same order 12 sec and 4.8 sec (so 20% gives you 12.5 sec and 5 sec).
Don't get me wrong, Haste in pretty awesome at 10, but unless you're playing Holy Paladin, 15% Haste is enough, 20% if you're fully dedicate into Haste, but 25% will be not as good as you would expected.

If any other question, don't hesitate!
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So using Str/Haste till 15% and than the rest in Str/Stamina should be a good middle ground than?
 
Mattymatt726 said:
Now this statement is with the fact that Crusader has finally been nerfed to 14 str/34 heal?
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I didn't know about it being nerfed inot the ground like that. It's still 34 str ( at 20 ) for the record. Don't know who sold you on the super-low stats. I still feel like the cru heal is substantial & while I haven't any proof of this, I get the feeling that it's heal is affected by active trinks. I usually run https://www.wowhead.com/item=113408/grekas-dentures with either https://www.wowhead.com/item=111547/grondos-spare-eye or https://www.wowhead.com/item=111948/gruuks-evil-eye so when I go hot I see a strength boost as powerful as OG Crusader, on top of what ever my kit allows for gem/ gear-buff wise.
I know that those bonus stats effect the heall, & unless this newest nerf has slipped in under me nose, I've still seen some immense heals off a cru proc.

Just the same, a prot pally with no gems or enchants is still perfectly capable of soloing; as has been said.
 
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