Banned and not Banned things (Bracket info, brief I swear)

Banning specific abilties is dumb.
I don't play brewmaster, and I don't plan to. However, telling a spec to not use one of its main abilities is extremely pointless, and an insult to players that enjoy playing the class, who have played BM @19 and other levels since MOP came out. Hey marks hunters, no aimed shot, it hits too hard. Mistweavers, we have decided that enveloping mist is too strong, don't use it. Rdruid FCs, travel form is too OP, please sit in bear form 24/7. Enhancement shamans, your damage is very high, so to compensate lets shame you as a bracket for using ghost wolf, or even existing in general. Feral druids, fuck you. Rshamans, you arent allowed to use your massive utility, because mistweavers don't have it. Affliction warlocks, UA is too hard for other healers to deal with and they are losing their minds to 4 second silences, please do not use it because it hurts the ability of other players to enjoy games. Rogues, your CC utility is broken as fuck, please never use a subterfuge/cheap shot build because no other class can CC that many targets out of stealth. Discipline priests, you aren't allowed to use bubble, it hits fucking way harder than any combination of mistweaver abilties combined, and that shit is just broken. Brewmaster monks, don't use one of your defensive cooldowns that you get by choosing your spec, because fuck you and your choice of playstyle.

It's extremely illogical. Yes, guard absorbs a lot. However..... IT'S A PUG!!!!!! Get over it. It is a spec-specific ability that a class receives for choosing a certain spec. Let them use it in a pug. It can be played around. Limiting a defensive CD of a class, in a pick-up game at that, is probably the stupidest thing that one could try to do.
 
I can see it being difficult, but I can also see a need for it regardless of difficulty of enforcement. And the need for it imo highly outweighs the difficulty of it.

I think most of us agree on the goal. That goal can be reached a lot quicker often using soft, slow, and circular motions than hard, fast, and straight.
 
Lol guard needed the ban. even bm monks agreed who played the class lol

Guard was simply an example. Feral druids have been excluded from everything in existence for way too long, because they are "broken". Who is to determine that something is broken? There will always be a strong spec/ability in any bracket. Stormstrike hits way too hard, and is globaling people. Who are you to tell the BM monk that he isn't allowed to use a defensive cooldown, so as not to get globalled by something else?

No matter what strong dps spec/abilities you remove from a bracket, something else will fill its place. Treat it like a food web, remove the top tier predator, and you have enhance shamans everywhere :D
The less you ban, and the more diverse classes that community members decide to roll, the better off the bracket will be. I strictly play fire mage, ele sham FC, and ele sham DPS for a reason. It promotes bracket health, and makes games better for everyone. If people would simply do this, games would be so much more balanced.

On a more serious note, games have been freaking amazing. IDK why everyone is QQ'ing about random shit like OP abilties and specs, and what should/shouldn't be banned. I am all for minimal to no restrictions, its a pug ffs. However, with the games that have been happening, I have had a great time, and I couldn't ask for anything more!
 
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Hey marks hunters, no aimed shot, it hits too hard.

It's extremely illogical. Yes, guard absorbs a lot. However..... IT'S A PUG!!!!!! Get over it. It is a spec-specific ability that a class receives for choosing a certain spec. Let them use it in a pug. It can be played around. Limiting a defensive CD of a class, in a pick-up game at that, is probably the stupidest thing that one could try to do.

Funny that you mention Aimed Shot, specifically. That ability was successfully banned in 29s pugs years ago, (BC or Wrath?) before the unholy plague of f2ps existed. All it took was community members who actually gave a fuck and had an iota of consideration for their fellow players. That player pool was much bigger than what we have currently @ 39, so it should really be that much easier to pull off with fewer people now.

Assuming that community members aren't going to play like douchebags, of course.
 
feral stealth to flag 1 shot since they can hit for i heard 8k(ive only been hit for 6700 so far) that is why they are banned. enh shammies are so easy to kite by a LOT of classes is why they arent really getting hate right now. yeah they hit like a truck and imo should be toned down by about 1k-2k stormstrike dmg but they are a class that can be dealt with whereas a BM monk can literally "go into africa" as you said in another post and sit there with the entire team putting burst into em and not have any concern towards dying at all. That isn't balanced..
 
So I haven't played in like 3 years but I was always a Feral druid (the spec wasn't exactly great back then but fun to annoy other classes with...) - what kind of damage can they put out now?!

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9K ferocious bites aren't OP.
 

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