Are any of the Valentine necklaces BIS?

[Cubbers]

I'm a mw monk, and I was wondering if the necklaces are any good.

 

[Freetwink]

item lvl wise yes and stat wise it's same maybe different combo's of ofstats

 

[Sketchbag]

No cuz they don't have any primary stats!

 

[Freetwink]

like many necklaces : https://www.wowhead.com/item=88273/armsmasters-sealed-locket

 

[Sponsor]

Missing out on primary stats isn't as much of a big deal for 120s as it is for low level twinks, sadly.

They do make a great addition to a specific 2ndary stat set though (i.e. full haste builds).

 

[tomxoqt]

I think secondaries are more important at low level than at high level because 1 primary is 1 AP/SP at 120 or low level, but 5 haste is around 1% at 49 and negligible at 120 (as a random example, or around 10 haste is approx 1% at 79 but again very little at 120). The neck is inferior to BoA necks because the heal is too good imo.

 

[Hazeman]

Yas, but f2ps (pure ones) havent access to loom neck

 

[Cubbers]

Am I wrong or do some of the valentine necklaces have 2 primary stats aswell

 

[Freetwink]

only the 90 + ones
[doublepost=1549986048,1549986016][/doublepost]https://www.wowhead.com/shadowfang-keep

 

[CIHC]

I hope this doesn't mean that the other holiday drops have no primary stats. That'd make me a sad Cookie.

 

[Ramdrive]

Interesting question is will the necklaces will be ilvl 35 this time, or if kept will they scale to ilvl 35 in the next patch

 

[Chops]

I hope this doesn't mean that the other holiday drops have no primary stats. That'd make me a sad Cookie.

The cloaks from the summer event have primary stats and one of the trinkets from brewfest has int. but thats it.

 

[Yapah]

I think secondaries are more important at low level than at high level because 1 primary is 1 AP/SP at 120 or low level, but 5 haste is around 1% at 49 and negligible at 120 (as a random example, or around 10 haste is approx 1% at 79 but again very little at 120). The neck is inferior to BoA necks because the heal is too good imo.

thats not how it works....

You say 1 primary is 1 AP/SP at 120 or low lvl, but you're failing to think in terms of ratios
Yes, 1 AP is 1 AP no matter what level you are, but that doesn't mean it holds the same value for a low lvl and a high lvl.

For example, I'm gonna use your numbers of 5 haste = 1% at 49 and 10 haste = 1% at 79.
Lets assume my 49 has 300 AP and my 79 has 600 AP.
If I were to increase my AP by 3, it would mean a 1% increase in damage for 49 and 0.5% increase in damage for my 79.
If I were to increase my haste by 5, it would mean a 1% increase in damage for my 49, and 0.5% increase in damage for my 79.

3 AP = 1% dmg increase, 5 Haste = 1% dmg increase at 49
3 AP = 0.5% dmg increase, 5 Haste = 0.5% dmg increase at 79

So your argument that secondaries scale better at lower levels doesn't make sense, because AP/SP scales (in a way) too.

 

[tomxoqt]

thats not how it works....

You say 1 primary is 1 AP/SP at 120 or low lvl, but you're failing to think in terms of ratios
Yes, 1 AP is 1 AP no matter what level you are, but that doesn't mean it holds the same value for a low lvl and a high lvl.

For example, I'm gonna use your numbers of 5 haste = 1% at 49 and 10 haste = 1% at 79.
Lets assume my 49 has 300 AP and my 79 has 600 AP.
If I were to increase my AP by 3, it would mean a 1% increase in damage for 49 and 0.5% increase in damage for my 79.
If I were to increase my haste by 5, it would mean a 1% increase in damage for my 49, and 0.5% increase in damage for my 79.

3 AP = 1% dmg increase, 5 Haste = 1% dmg increase at 49
3 AP = 0.5% dmg increase, 5 Haste = 0.5% dmg increase at 79

So your argument that secondaries scale better at lower levels doesn't make sense, because AP/SP scales (in a way) too.

Fair point! On my fury war I get by far most of my strength from procs, so I prefer to amp up the benefits of that with decent secondary distributions rather than focusing purely on AP.

 

[Goesid]

Sweet perfume brooch is bis for FCing

 

[Allybeboba]

I like the ones I have for healers because of the versatility. Presuming they still have that stat this year.

/cheers

 

[Yapah]

Fair point! On my fury war I get by far most of my strength from procs, so I prefer to amp up the benefits of that with decent secondary distributions rather than focusing purely on AP.

Fury is an exception where secondaries and stam is the best build because all ur str comes from crusader wep swaps.

 

[Hashbrowns]

I'm a mw monk, and I was wondering if the necklaces are any good.

If you are vet panda, then possibly. From a pure healing standpoint are non primary stat rings better? No. But if you want to make sure you survive, anything with tons of vers is going to be really good.

With Panda and alchemy, you have around +32 int in buffs (at work, can't confirm exact number). That and the 5 set bonus from of the fang, you really are pretty set on int so you have some options with rings. I've run pure int builds before and it's pretty fun. You can pretty much keep everyone up with just channel, meaning you have infinite mana. But in general you want max stamina, vers, and int, with crit.

If you are pure f2p I'd stick with int on rings and neck.