Arcane or Frost mage?

[Neon]

From what I knew in cata:

Arcane: Burst , imp CS, mobility

Frost: CC, shatter crits

How are these two specs in MoP, and which one is better for PUGing?

 

[verh]

arcane doesnt have imp cs and does meh damage

frost does meh damage BUT GETS A ROOT!

 

[Fujin0]

BUT GETS A ROOT!

Which doesn't work against any healer or any druid spec...

+1 for balance Blizzard!

 

[youakim]

Frost. Arcane does terrible damage outside of a 6stack arcane barrage, which would take spamming arcane blast (which does pitiful damage), has no slow besides Frostfire Bolt, none of the specs have Imp CS, and Frost just has way more control.

 

[Kibbies]

Not considering fire spec?

good choice

 

[venus]

frost

arcane explained above

fire > not enough crit rating avaible to be viable (pyro procs)

imo

 

[Snowjobs]

guna be honest . i only play fire when i play mage. pom pyro is bis talent . come at meh

 

[Purse]

Mages are crap now, just delete it.

 

[Neon]

Thanks for all the inputs, since I only play crappy classes I will be rolling a mage.

 

[Publ1c3n3my]

Can be quite an irritating class to play now
damage went from mediocre to were it barely scratches them

with 3+ prot paladins on either side,prepare to get silenced/interrupted to the point were you are immune .Rogue ambush crits up to 800,hunter arcane shot still hits for 120 per arrow, so prepare to die fast
only viable spec is frost, and even then it is so badly nerfed...

 

[youakim]

damage went from pretty damn good to were it barely scratches them

I just wanted to fix that, I wouldn't call shattering for 600 "mediocre."

 

[Rhaellia]

Which doesn't work against any healer or any druid spec...

+1 for balance Blizzard!

Most people don't use dispel and lots of druids are terrible at shifting.

Even if they do...

Dispels have CDs now, 7 secs, right? You can sheep the healer who can dispel. If they do dispel your freeze or your slow then they can't dispel Hammer of Justice or Polymorph, something worth dispelling. Sounds like a win to me. And on top of this all, even if it's being dispelled or shifted out of, you're still harassing them. Being slowed and frozen messes with you, it annoys you, makes you play differently. One more distraction to manage.

No damage, squishy, and useless against druids (generally speaking) but fun at times. Good at securing returns and last second re-picks with well-timed novas. Good fcer support by peeling (sheeping, frostbolt/frostfire bolt, novas) and aoe spam going across mid.

 

[Purse]

Now that Blizzard has denied us pokemon, well there is ONE other thing that might convince me to come back to this game:

BRING BACK CATA MAGES... give us back proper Arcane Barrage damage without this crappy "arcane charge" system where we need to be a sitting duck to build it up

GIVE US BACK CONE OF COLD

PIECE OF SHIT BLZIZARD

You have until the next patch to rectify this problem, Blizzard - or i will be deleting all my characters and getting myself IP banned from TI.

 

[Gethi]

Played my mage for the first time in a couple months earlier, and either I'm completely awful at it or mages are piss poor now. I wouldn't bother if I were you, you'll spend a load of time gearing up only to realize your still only half as useful as a dr00d or pallyturd.