Powerwordhug said:^ what falkor said, if any mage pre or post cata cant pull above 8k dps in or outside of icc they have something wrong with them... and if they are an 80 twink then they should at least be pulling 40k-50k (well, as fire that is)
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Just remembered you are that one wotlk progression guild haha, sorry about that XD I totally forgot about the progression style of your raiding (which sounds pretty original and cool)