Alliance problems

We get a lot of people that can't compete with horde output and also every game about half of our players have no concept of team fights they just go way too deep and suicide over and over

and if that wasn't enough already another thing out of our control is hordes ability to secure kills on the few people on our team that actually make an impact any time they want with racials on really short cooldowns

were just fucked in multiple directions from the number of new players that we get and strait up abilities we can use
 
We get a lot of people that can't compete with horde output and also every game about half of our players have no concept of team fights they just go way too deep and suicide over and over

and if that wasn't enough already another thing out of our control is hordes ability to secure kills on the few people on our team that actually make an impact any time they want with racials on really short cooldowns

were just fucked in multiple directions from the number of new players that we get and strait up abilities we can use

A lot of it seems to be what I call the plebs. No gear no understanding or wish to play objectively or no understanding of objective play. they usually display one or more of those traits. Horde has none of that, horde has a smaller population of players where most all are at least semi competent.

Also the class balance. Horde ALWAYS has healers queuing disc/rsham alliance is lucky to get 2 healers in a game and it's rarely an raham it's usually 2 discs. Alliance has plenty of rogues warriors and hunters vs 4 boomkins they usually suicide into mid and get gy farmed.

gear might have something to do with it since nearly all casters can be an int or two away from bis just horde and alliance has most all the melee specific gear
 
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I would just like to point out...Win ratio is PUGS means NOTHING. Why is that even a bragging right? It is easily manipulated by /afk... If you are talking about Wargame win ratio, then you can talk. I used to play 19s back in the day and I recently came back to this bracket. I play rsham alot right now and I am constantly running with flag carrier. Flybynyte or whatever is one of the rogues that stood out to me as far as EFC takedowns, He doesn't just suicide he saps correctly then makes then makes actual attempts for flag returns, and will even turn for a kick on the healer if its close enuf and he has time(most rogues are idiots and blindly open and die)It isn't a rogues fault you can't hold mid, and alot of times rogue returns can turn tide of games. Rogues don't always play mid and tbh in most circumstances they open mid first fight then their job is strictly flag returns. Too many disc priests trying to top damage when they are one of the only healers is a major problem. Lol. There are tons of worse rogues you could call out, but calling out one of the actually good ones is bad of you. On another note, ally really could use some better priests, their rshams are on point tho ;)
 
A lot of it seems to be what I call the plebs. No gear no understanding or wish to play objectively or no understanding of objective play. they usually display one or more of those traits. Horde has none of that, horde has a smaller population of players where most all are at least semi competent.

Also the class balance. Horde ALWAYS has healers queuing disc/rsham alliance is lucky to get 2 healers in a game and it's rarely an raham it's usually 2 discs. Alliance has plenty of rogues warriors and hunters vs 4 boomkins they usually suicide into mid and get gy farmed.

gear might have something to do with it since nearly all casters can be an int or two away from bis just horde and alliance has most all the melee specific gear

Yeah I just came back to 19s from 20s(which is god awful right now) and I've noticed in some games, the headless chicken movement is just as bad as 20s.
 
I'd say most people acknowledge that win ratio is has very little to do with an individuals skill
 
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mostly what i see is dps that are clueless on what to hit in mid or how a CC works on a healer, thats just my 2 cents
 
well hes doing something different lately hopefully not queue dodging and leaving games
 
its because i faction changed for double signet. Still play the same. "hindering" the alliance like you say lordciren.
 
Anyone who says horde needs help at any time of day is an idiot. Alliance needs more competent players and horde needs more filler scrubs
 
alliance problems are having 5 retards with no gear in every single game and then if its not that its bis or near bis twinks running around like chickens with their heads cut off.
 

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