Alliance Need Lvl27 Twinks

RiverpawGrinder

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Recently there are a lot of Horde lvl27-29 twink fury warriors (all from Bleeding Hollow) appearing in bgs. They have free whirlwind, can get 2-3 crusaders up easily. There are hardly any alliance twinks to balance it. BG almost unplayable.

Pls make some lvl27 fury war if u are playing alliance to balance the game.

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The point is, a >lvl22 fury warrior has a whirlwind that is not only rage free but also generate rages. And, if one is dual wielding crusaders and is standing next to 3 or more targets, a single whirlwind procs crusader more than 70% of the time (my experience) and occasionally gives 2 crusaders directly. With weapon swapping and whirlwind spamming, 3 crusaders are common. Very occasionally, 4 crusaders can happen. That is extra 400str.

You don't need to have any other gear to be OP. I have seen one with full heirlooms and crusaders only.

Forget about survival hunter/bramble staff/talasites/lvl28 green/mastery stacking/whatever. Only 2 specs are viable:
1. lvl22-29 fury warriors with the xpoff debuff spamming whirlwind for >3 crusaders
2. healers, specifically rshaman that can slow and run away in ghost wolf. The rest can't slow or can't run when struck by hamstring and will be 2-shotted by these 3 crusaders warriors easily(Ive experienced these a lot)

BTW, this is not a cry thread. I just want to tell you what is really OP and hope people roll more of these on both sides and balance the game .
 
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Idk mabey its alright to loose some games and just be what it is? Still picking up games on these warriors but its rough loose 2 of 3 against the 27-30s and they spam every time they kill me
 
Don't be surprised if this thread gets deleted. I made one earlier addressing the 27 debuff crew and poof the thread was gone*@ threads are not allowed*. Its cool, let em run rampant and make this bracket toxic - glhf
 
troublesomesleeper said:
Its cool, let em run rampant and make this bracket toxic - glhf
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I mean, there is not a good answer to it anyway right? I mean ultimately you either make a 27 or not. personally, as I have experienced, these guys have caused some stomps but also they drop plenty of games. I don't think this is as big an issue as "making this bracket toxic." There is always something, just have to roll with it, and (at least right now) this has been a minor thing.
 
RiverpawGrinder said:
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/us/Bleeding-Hollow/Juicingjay
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I have not bg for almost idk half a year or a year, was bulk producing lvl14s and lvl23 mm hunters before I went mia.. yesterday I finally went into a 20-29 bg using a 23, played only 2 wsg, was testing the config, quite happy with the outcome, I met a Juicing-something too in one of the bg, quite sure not juicingjay (cant really remember) or maybe it was, or an alt toon from same player.. It wasn't difficult, won a game and lose a game, too many lvlers on both teams.. Wasn't one sided thing.. If you often get stomped, then try to play 12 hours later, you might meet a different group from a different timezone
 
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i would be interested in seeing a whirlwind multi-kill montage by one of these guys. there’s nothing like the whirlwind multikills these guys do at bases. they whirlwind and people die, doesn’t even need to press a real rotational ability
 
Lateraldrop said:
I mean, there is not a good answer to it anyway right? I mean ultimately you either make a 27 or not. personally, as I have experienced, these guys have caused some stomps but also they drop plenty of games. I don't think this is as big an issue as "making this bracket toxic." There is always something, just have to roll with it, and (at least right now) this has been a minor thing.
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The results of the 27 debuff premades are going to impact the whole bracket. To counter running into the 27 debuff premade people will start to make strong premades of their own. When that happens, things will get worse for the solo queue twinks and pugs - who enjoys getting curb stomped by premades? Snowballing into more and more premades. Random BGs will become miserable to solo queue, just a cesspool of fotm specs and premades.
 
Merlin said:
I have not bg for almost idk half a year or a year, was bulk producing lvl14s and lvl23 mm hunters before I went mia.. yesterday I finally went into a 20-29 bg using a 23, played only 2 wsg, was testing the config, quite happy with the outcome, I met a Juicing-something too in one of the bg, quite sure not juicingjay (cant really remember) or maybe it was, or an alt toon from same player.. It wasn't difficult, won a game and lose a game, too many lvlers on both teams.. Wasn't one sided thing.. If you often get stomped, then try to play 12 hours later, you might meet a different group from a different timezone
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Ah yes don't worry guys, just debuff hunters and you won't even notice they are debuffing warriors

zazzyfraz said:
i would be interested in seeing a whirlwind multi-kill montage by one of these guys. there’s nothing like the whirlwind multikills these guys do at bases. they whirlwind and people die, doesn’t even need to press a real rotational ability
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Idk pretty sure whirlwind is dependent on the characters' rotational ability :thonkW:
 
troublesomesleeper said:
The results of the 27 debuff premades are going to impact the whole bracket. To counter running into the 27 debuff premade people will start to make strong premades of their own. When that happens, things will get worse for the solo queue twinks and pugs - who enjoys getting curb stomped by premades? Snowballing into more and more premades. Random BGs will become miserable to solo queue, just a cesspool of fotm specs and premades.
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i understand that it is bad. I am just saying that there is nothing to really do about it.
 
Everything is ruining the bracket for someone.

FTPs ruin it for levelers
VETs ruin it for FTPs (not so much anymore gap has closed for hardcore FTP)
Bramble Survivals/Wars ruin it for other VETs
Xp Debuff 27+ ruin it for the later
Enemy team full of hunters (any specs) ruin it for the team with few or none

It’s just in this case you are the one on the receiving end. Not worthy of a cry thread, both sides are doing it. The bracket partly by design and mostly by circumstance is in general Not Fair.

There is a regular wargames scene in the bracket with rules that could be what your looking for, depending on your schedule of course.
 
Kaxle said:
Ah yes don't worry guys, just debuff hunters and you won't even notice they are debuffing warriors
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This debuff thing sound too lame :D:D:D that's why I mass produce my bg toons.. They lvl up and they served as guild masters for my guild banks, or they get deleted.. If only I can convince myself to do that debuff thing too.. have a bunch of 27-29 well geared dks fully gem 5/6 .. These warriors can whirlwind all they like, or have their ilvl44 or 49 .. they be dead before i lose 30% of my total health.. sigh but I don't play debuff :D:D:D

just found the name of that player .. not a warrior, but a 27 shaman .. Juicingjeff
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/bleeding-hollow/juicingjeff
 
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i'm working on some alliance reinforcements ;)
 
And imagine if everyone on EU had the braincells to pull together and arrange wargames like the US...

- No Hunter spam
- lvl 20 cap
- Organised gameplay
- No levellers ruining your experience

Blows my mind everytime I hear someone moan about their experience in the 20s bracket, but wont do anything about it. There are ways and means of getting round this and playing strong constructive games. Twinks vs Twinks.
 
Merlin said:
I have not bg for almost idk half a year or a year, was bulk producing lvl14s and lvl23 mm hunters before I went mia.. yesterday I finally went into a 20-29 bg using a 23, played only 2 wsg, was testing the config, quite happy with the outcome, I met a Juicing-something too in one of the bg, quite sure not juicingjay (cant really remember) or maybe it was, or an alt toon from same player.. It wasn't difficult, won a game and lose a game, too many lvlers on both teams.. Wasn't one sided thing.. If you often get stomped, then try to play 12 hours later, you might meet a different group from a different timezone
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If i remember correctly, the juicing-something you are talking about should be a caster (shaman or priest). It wasn't difficult because it wasn't a fury warrior that can easily proc 2-3 crusaders
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Apnea said:
i'm working on some alliance reinforcements ;)
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You can do it in no time. Just roll a fury warrior and get 2 weapons each with crusader enchant. The rest can be anything like heirlooms. That's it!!

And now use whirlwind to get 3 crusaders up and running all the time.
 
Cloaxs said:
Funny bc they still get their cheeks clapped by real thinks. I say let them do what they gotta do to see victory on their screen once in a while.
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maybe you had 3 pocket heals but he had 0? No need to deny how absurdly powerful 27 twinks are, the extra abilities and talents alone are ridiculous.
 
glancealot said:
maybe you had 3 pocket heals but he had 0? No need to deny how absurdly powerful 27 twinks are, the extra abilities and talents alone are ridiculous.
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Yeah insane how strong they are. No denying that, but just pressing ww doesn’t win games. Mortal strike does tho kek
 
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