a moral decision

[Neon]

veteran accounts cost five dollars now

they can use the auction house

they can obtain enchants

they can obtain ptp heirlooms

are these not the same as the villainous 24/29s that plagued the bracket all these years

what is the difference

you tell me .....

still dumbfounded we share this forum and ftptwink chat with them

if anyone played in the early days of ftp you would know ftp didn't always have it's own section

it used to be the 20-24section

We fought long and hard for our own section

But for what....

 

[Original]

veteran accounts cost five dollars now

they can use the auction house

they can obtain enchants

they can obtain ptp heirlooms

are these not the same as the villainous 24/29s that plagued the bracket all these years

what is the difference

you tell me .....

still dumbfounded we share this forum and ftptwink chat with them

if anyone played in the early days of ftp you would know ftp didn't always have it's own section

it used to be the 20-24section

We fought long and hard for our own section

But for what....

Yeah? Well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man.
You tell me besides stating facts, tbh your argument is completely valid, except "the villainous 24/29s that plagued the bracket all these years" haven't "plagued" the bracket but still do. So... If it was only 20's yea, vets would be the enemy, but we still have 24,28,29 so, I think we should just be 20's, idgaf if your pure f2p, f2p w/ looms, vet w/ no enchants, vet w/ f2p set, or full bown vet, just don't make this into another p2p vs f2p thing.

k thanks bye

 

[Lanky]

Well one thing that's obvious to me now is that F2Ps don't really want balance, they always complain about 29s but if they do have the chance to have enchants and p2p heirlooms, (basically 29) they will take it. Quite ironic but that's our bracket.

 

[Spiriel]

Well one thing that's obvious to me now is that F2Ps don't really want balance, they always complain about 29s but if they do have the chance to have enchants and p2p heirlooms, (basically 29) they will take it. Quite ironic but that's our bracket.

Absolutely agree about enchants but heirlooms rly have no significant input..
They look cool, they make life easier and they have a few stats but nothing thats gamebreaking.
(Maybe the Neck-heal but havent tested this yet)

 

[Kiri]

Well one thing that's obvious to me now is that F2Ps don't really want balance, they always complain about 29s but if they do have the chance to have enchants and p2p heirlooms, (basically 29) they will take it. Quite ironic but that's our bracket.

has any1 ever stated this as not being the case ?

 

[Zehj]

don't know why people try to trivialise what is essentially just a cheaper way to p2p, however it really depends on what the majority of the bracket is doing

playing a p2p vs majority f2ps isn't fun

playing an f2p vs majority p2ps isn't fun

a one off payment of $5 or w/e certainly isn't out of reach to anyone with a computer + internet, we'll have to see how the bracket reacts

nobody would expect you to play with f2p restrictions at 19s

 

[Voc]

Its 6.1 go big or go home

 

[Light]

Please stop with this moral threads.

Just understand this. If you had your f2p acc for a long time, are an achievement hunter, or statistic bragger...then you are most likely part of the f2p pride shit.

The day lofis ranking thread is deleted I see chaos on TI. That's what still keeps f2ps motivated to not pay.

But my future visions are, we will all become veteran.

Now please stop with this threads. Its pointless.

It won't change anyone's mind.

Just let them be

 

[Snowjobs]

who cares if u go veteran/p2p as long as u don't use enchants

 

[fatbellyzz]

We could all just play what we enjoy, and stop harassing everyone that makes a decision different to yours.
if only it were that simple >.<

 

[Allybeboba]

has any1 ever stated this as not being the case ?

Yes, every whine and moan thread on this forum implies it. Which would be practically be a every one.

/cheers
Sweetsidney

 

[danny glover]

It's incredibly naive to expect someone to play by the some arbitrary rules just because you've decided it's whats best for the bracket.

Outside of your organized F2P events, your morals don't mean shit.

 

[Zatox]

Well one thing that's obvious to me now is that F2Ps don't really want balance, they always complain about 29s but if they do have the chance to have enchants and p2p heirlooms, (basically 29) they will take it. Quite ironic but that's our bracket.

You have to think bigger then that. I went vet because it puts you ever closer to being on par with the people who everyone claims as the plague of the bracket. Only people not going vet are purists which is like...most retarded ideology ever. Noo ne but yourself cares that your pure.

 

[Honey Badger]

Let people do what they want. Enchants , no enchants, 1 set of gear or 3 sets. It seems more and more like segregation. Fight Twink segregation. Just accept twinks for who they are. Enchants or none.


"Pure f2ps" seem more and more salty about closing the gap.

 

[Gulbon]

Rest in peace, F2P twinking. ;_; I know I won't cop out and ruin the whole point of F2P twinking anyways.

 

[Lanky]

While I understand your frustration for being the inferior section of the bracket, it's the challenge vs 29s for me at the moment that keeps the bracket interesting. Winning a battleground is fun when you're vs other 20s. But when you beat a 29 premade with a F2P premade, it's the icing on the cake. However I understand that many feel differently to me, but what you must consider is that people say that want to go veteran to "close the gap" between them and 29s, but I'm sure the majority don't particularly care about the gap closer, but that fact that they can pwn other players, including 29s with enchants which weren't an option before.

Secondly, I've said this before and I'll say it again, F2P vs F2P is much more balanced that F2P vs P2P as well as P2P vs P2P. Which is another reason I'm staying pure. I do not frown up on the players who went veteran if it's genuinely to use it as a gap closer or to pwn people. I don't care either if you stay pure, but the reason it is so frustrating is that many F2Ps claim they want balanced game play, which can be so easily organised with wargames. Yet, when people organize 10v10s, barely enough people sign up, suggesting to me that they don't particularly want balanced gameplay where the person's skill is the deciding factor that results in whatever outcome.

You have to think bigger then that. I went vet because it puts you ever closer to being on par with the people who everyone claims as the plague of the bracket. Only people not going vet are purists which is like...most retarded ideology ever. Noo ne but yourself cares that your pure.

 

[verh]

Rest in peace, F2P twinking. ;_; I know I won't cop out and ruin the whole point of F2P twinking anyways.

Which is what, not paying?
If you have an old account you don't need to pay, so it really doesn't go against it. Don't get me wrong I'm still playing my trial but that's because I'm lazy and don't notice a difference in bgs. Vet can still be free to play, just stronger than a trial.

 

[Honey Badger]

F2p isn't RIP. It's evolving, stop being that old guy who said " when I went to the movie when I was a kid, it used to cost a wooden nickle".

no enchants to be fair for a small fraction of people? <SMH>

 

[Gulbon]

Which is what, not paying?
If you have an old account you don't need to pay, so it really doesn't go against it. Don't get me wrong I'm still playing my trial but that's because I'm lazy and don't notice a difference in bgs. Vet can still be free to play, just stronger than a trial.

I have an old account I still pay for, but it's not linked to my trial.
I could easily afford the 5 dollars but I choose not to.

F2p isn't RIP. It's evolving, stop being that old guy who said " when I went to the movie when I was a kid, it used to cost a wooden nickle".

no enchants to be fair for a small fraction of people? <SMH>

Those who pay are no longer trials. The whole point of playing trial accounts was to play for free, and challenge yourself under a set of conditions that forced you to gear and play differently than a P2P account. The bracket thrived because it was unique, but now that people are converting to P2P, the uniqueness is gone. People used to play trial accounts for the uniqueness, the challenge of being forced to change your playstyle, and because a F2P vs F2P is much more balanced than a P2P vs P2P. Now, people just care about being the best, even if it means defeating the whole purpose of why this bracket came to be in the first place.

I'm a F2P twink. Paying 5 dollars makes me a P2P twink, thus ruining everything that our twinks, and this bracket were. Paying isn't evolving. You aren't an evolved F2P twink, you're just a P2P twink

 

[danny glover]

I believe everyone can agree games would be more competitive and enjoyable without all of the enchants. That's not really the point.

This bracket isn't what it once was- and trust me, I've been around since the start. You have to adapt, this isn't cata.

btw- i think this is a chance for f2ps to get serious about organized games. get some serious competitive games recorded to show people how much fun games can actually be without lolcrusaderproc.