A bunch of new rare loots for 29's in MoP.
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by the looks of it the plate = mail and the mail = leather.
You're losing your MH weapon though. Probably a stat loss unless you can enchant nailspitter with regular enchants.
Hmm looks like its all new SM loot since they are doing it in a heroic version they are redoing the loot tables and we get level 28 versions of the heroic drops we should end up with some interesting looking mog pieces.
Lots of secondary stats on the items, that is gonna open up some gearing options.
There should also be at-least one new SM quest with blue rewards. I played around with the filters and couldn't find any new quest rewards item levels 25-40 and found nothing indicating that that hasn't been data mined yet.
On another note be sure to get the current sm gear soon it looks like its getting grandfathered.
Lots of secondary stats on the items, that is gonna open up some gearing options.
There should also be at-least one new SM quest with blue rewards. I played around with the filters and couldn't find any new quest rewards item levels 25-40 and found nothing indicating that that hasn't been data mined yet.
On another note be sure to get the current sm gear soon it looks like its getting grandfathered.
yea but master hunter bow isn't getting any buff
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When you say current SM gear, do you mean only the Graveyard / Library stuff, or the Armory / Cathedral loot as well ?
Does anyone remeber the end of Wrath. How far before the Cata went live were grandfathered items or the items that changed ilvl known ?
On topic, I see some of the BiS gear among the new blues. Also, it looks like the plate gear will be wearable before lvl 40. There are the same ilvl mail and plate pants and the plate ones have about 50% more armor. Was about time they changed that imo.
I'm not sure how they are going about updating loot tables (the exact process) to reflect the changes to ranged weapons, but it's not just Master Hunter's bow that hasn't been buffed, it's literally every low level wand/gun/bow/crossbow except for a select few (like Nailspitter). They've just recently put in the loot tables for SM and Scholomance, since they are going to be level 90 heroics, so we get to see what those items are going to look like, but I'm not sure if they've had the opportunity to get to all the other low level items yet, or if they even plan to.
It's one of those things where I really wish they would be more communicative and transparent with their plans, and I really hope they don't completely miss all these items again this time around (they never actually did a full update of all low level items for Cata either, though some items did get changed).
Another interesting thing is that if you look at the new loot tables for SM and Scholo, comparatively some of the new items directly scale with their equivalent BoA counterparts of the same level. It's an indicator that the new gear for those dungeons are being designed @ level 90, then being scaled down like BoAs. It would be great if they did that with all drops prior to level 60, but that is probably not inside their scope of development for MoP.
We'll see.
Sorry for double post.
To answer your post, the dungeons in question, (SM/Scholo) are being revamped completely to be done at level 90 as heroics, but still having a version for lower level characters. There are currently two dungeons that are level 85 heroics (Deadmines, Shadowfang Keep) where the loot tables were partially rescaled to be level 85 rewards, but the actual loot drops still remained mostly intact.
In this case, SM had so few loot drops to begin with, they created all new loot tables for the dungeons to be a viable place to gear up @ 90, and as a result there are all new drops for the low level versions of those dungeons. SM has been combined to be two separate dungeons instead of four, with all the old bosses being replaced by new models and mechanics, in addition to new loot tables.
GY has been combined with Cathedral, and Library with Armory. It's safe to say at this point that all the rare spawns (fallen champ, azshir, Ironspine), as well as all current loot drops, are being removed from the game in MoP.
I think they just did a stat multiplier for all low level guns/bows. Because NS has stats, they received the multiplier whereas MHB has no stats to begin with, so none were multiplied. I doubt they are going through individual items.
This is very much possible. It would be nice if they went through with a fine toothed comb, though I don't doubt that they would decide not to do that in the end. What we should do though, is compile a list of items that are changing, and keep an eye on the changes as they happen, so we can suggest to the devs that they take a closer look at specific items within context, hoping that they do address them.
Edit: Yes, it does look as though it was just a stat multiplier, I'm not sure they realize that so many low level ranged weapons have no stats to be multiplied.
http://www.wowhead.com/items=2?filter=qu=2:3:4;ty=2:18:3:16:19;minrl=10;maxrl=30;eb=1
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http://mop.wowhead.com/items=2?filter=qu=2:3:4;ty=2:18:3:16:19;minrl=10;maxrl=30;eb=1
Edit 2: Creating a post on the MoP beta forums, feel free to contribute your thoughts.
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for now I would just get all the stuff that is currently usable specifically the rare spawns, worry about the other stuff when it gets closer, in all likelihood none of it will be De-leveled.
At this point I wouldn't bet on them straightening out the leather/mail/plate thing, it is far more likley that they simply used a stat scale on the heroic drops and haven't changed the armor type.
I think the info was out maybe two months ahead of time, and players had until the end of 4.0.3 (i.e. patch day for 4.0.3a). to get the items.
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