Lethalex said:
So I was just looking at this guild 'Anomalous' and out of its 22 members, 11 are 80 (Epic guild there Vinlann) Of those 11, 1 has real gems and enchants, 3 have green/blue gems, and the rest are fails! New 80twink guild on Darkspear--- WooWoo.
Thats cool, you didnt even go to the website did you? Why dont you use your common sense and read something yeah? We only use legit gear with our current progression. All that gear, those chants those gems are probably 200 and they use them for pvp or dungeon/outside things to do. We never use above current gear for raiding. If you dont believe me thats your loss.
Gwastank...naxx wasnt hard nor was it easy. Neither was icc in 30% buff, neither was uld, neither was toc. "easy" is an opinion. Its a pure opinion. Whats easy to you may be difficult to another and vice versa.
The reason people quit our guild is because they plain & simple said it wasnt their style. Whether that means they didnt want to raid naxx or just didnt want to raid wotlk content at all we dont know, they didnt make it 100% clear so we have to just guess. I doubt you even raided 40m naxx. I've been playing since 06...some content annoys me it came back and some doesnt. Naxx was a combination of both. But this guild was created with the idea of starting from the beginning of wotlk and raiding it all over again for those who missed it and those who just liked the experience. If you dont like it fine, but if you want people to join your guild at least you need to make things clear of what your goals are other than just raiding 10m.
You act like I'm stupid, someone who is "lesser" than an average twink player. I've been a part of twinking since vanilla from 19 twinks to even up to this 80 twinks. I've done it all. Guilds that dont have a strong foundation & a regular amount of members will usually go under & disband within a short time. We've been alive for 2 months and we raid regularly with no intention of stopping. Your calling us stubborn? Me ignorant? Maybe ignorant a little bit I apologize for that but when you have a very low number of members in your guild or even enough to raid you'll know why...your foundation. You have none, you didnt post any info about your guild other than you want to raid 10m and with a few friends. Cool...if I was to join a guild with a good progression & foundation setup, that isnt going to go under ...I'm going to join the guild that isnt going to disband. I dont want to waste my time. You have to put yourself in the position of someone who wants to join this guild and then think about it. If you think about a guild as a business your business would make you go bankrupt in a matter of a week with this foundation. Luckily its not...
@dartofblue - I'm not stealing members from any guild, I'm recruiting. I mean its just as bad as putting the thor advertisements on dr. pepper bottles. Businesses do this all the time and theres nothing against TI forum rules to do it here. We arent wrong to do it, we're in fact helping the 80 community by making a centralized location where they can do all they're pve & pvp here. If they are just purely looking to do it with friends they wouldnt come looking for another 80 guild anyways....no harm done...get over it
In response to Vinlann, no one really wants to start at 200ilevel Naxx, the only good Naxx was back in Classic WoW when it required 40 people to run it. Don't get me wrong when WotLK first came out I was all over it, but they latterly reused the raid... so forget Blizzard. But, in a sense 80 is much like 70 in the idea that people want to get as close to BiS gear as possible (IE Justice Points T10 *80* and Welfare Brutal Gladiator PvP set *70*)
So many opinions here. You think everybody hated naxx? Nobody raided naxx after toc because they could run dungeons all day with the new DF and get 25m ulduar gear easily without doing a single raid. People raided naxx regularly during tier 7 & 8. You may think naxx was bad but obviously the ones in this guild raiding it dont. Dont assume everybody hates it. Naxx40 was difficult even at 70 and very few people saw kt let alone sapphiron. Opening it up at 80 again for 10/25m reasons were for both lore & player reasons. After swp they didnt want another kj or kt repeat. Basically meaning only the hardest of hardcore people got to see them in current content.
Please if your going to drag on me bring your facts to the table and common sense
Do with what you will with your guild I'm just trying to help the 80 community out. Provide a good foundation for your guild and you'll do fine. Champions of Ulduar folded within 3 weeks of its creation for one simple reason. We lost members to anomalous because they just had more people and a brighter future for raiding. Even though our foundation was longer and we were there first, we still lost the battle and therefor merged with them. This brought both guilds positive outlook on the 80 twink for both pve/pvp.
Do what you will, I'm just trying to help
So I was just looking at this guild 'Anomalous' and out of its 22 members, 11 are 80 (Epic guild there Vinlann) Of those 11, 1 has real gems and enchants, 3 have green/blue gems, and the rest are fails! New 80twink guild on Darkspear--- WooWoo.
Just want to go over this really quick. We had 35 members but they were over 2 months of inactivity so we decided to remove them since we had no notice. 5 of those members quit to level to 85 saying it wasnt they're style to raid 80 content. Of those 11 have all right gear for raiding (200 currently). If you werent aware epic gems werent released til 3.1 or tier 8 content. So green/blue gems were completely legit. The only reason some have epic gems is because blue gems are very hard to get ahold of for either a reasonable price or to prospect. Let alone the recipes can be quite annoying to get ahold of. We didnt want to suffocate our members by making them use green gems but honeslty the stat difference for example between green stam gem and epic stam gem is 12. Thats not going to hurt a soul. The rest are fails? Please elaborate more. If your calling us ignorant and then turn around and drag on us for actually being legit then you guys will fold under. Do your research before you try to drown others in your stupidity
