80 Rogue DPS

[Zmirnøff]

Strangely enough, Mastery just doesn't scale well for assassination. It's additive (much like resto druid mastery), so won't scale as well as agi + haste does for combat and sub. I think it's simply because there's so much haste/crit on wotlk gear that assassination pulls ahead, despite wanting those stats less.

Fair enough, but his breakdown was silly. Envenom's were hitting for like 60k+

 

[frityr459]

I play rogue at 80 /Clonce at Maelstrom and i use 277 gear with Agility gems and Reforge crit to Hit for 27% mele white hit cap.

And i do silly dps as assi i mean it's retarded. i do more dps with haste hit caped then with cata mastery spec overall.

27 % Hit 26 expertise rest haste i got like 87 mastery rating = like 3 % inc dmg with posion.

But HIT WHITE CAPED IS Insane usefull.

So if you want max dps go full 277 + cata daggers and PEWPEW PDS.

 

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I play rogue at 80 /Clonce at Maelstrom and i use 277 gear with Agility gems and Reforge crit to Hit for 27% mele white hit cap.

And i do silly dps as assi i mean it's retarded. i do more dps with haste hit caped then with cata mastery spec overall.

27 % Hit 26 expertise rest haste i got like 87 mastery rating = like 3 % inc dmg with posion.

But HIT WHITE CAPED IS Insane usefull.

So if you want max dps go full 277 + cata daggers and PEWPEW PDS.

Eugh, just stop at 17% (specials), and stack mastery or something. Two things assassination rogues do not need is more hit (melee damage is a small part of the DPS cycle) or expertise (they lost nothing from not landing an attack due to a dodge, merely a (very short) gcd. It's much easier to just go for more mastery, it'll increase your dps by more than hit/expertise will.

 

[frityr459]

i will test when i come home every possible stats with ICC gear.

Becuase when i used Mastery / haste and 17% spell hit i did lower dps then i do with 27 % white hi.

atleast in ICC

 

[frityr459]

Eugh, just stop at 17% (specials), and stack mastery or something. Two things assassination rogues do not need is more hit (melee damage is a small part of the DPS cycle) or expertise (they lost nothing from not landing an attack due to a dodge, merely a (very short) gcd. It's much easier to just go for more mastery, it'll increase your dps by more than hit/expertise will.

+ in raids i got like 94 % crit chance, and my mele hits does top dps of my attacks in recount

 

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+ in raids i got like 94 % crit chance, and my mele hits does top dps of my attacks in recount

Yes, because you've got 78 mastery rating. As mutilate. Stack more and it will change.

There's two reasons assassination wants mastery. It gets a large amount of energy regen from bleeds (rupture, garrote), and with wotlk gear, 18% haste is a large amount (likely to cause energy-capping), so mastery is just plain better. Crit, I seriously doubt you have 94% crit in raids. On a couple of abilities perhaps, but not on your high damage (poisons). Reasoning is, mutilate just doesn't gain anywhere near as much crit as sub or combat.

 

[frityr459]

Yes, because you've got 78 mastery rating. As mutilate. Stack more and it will change.

There's two reasons assassination wants mastery. It gets a large amount of energy regen from bleeds (rupture, garrote), and with wotlk gear, 18% haste is a large amount (likely to cause energy-capping), so mastery is just plain better. Crit, I seriously doubt you have 94% crit in raids. On a couple of abilities perhaps, but not on your high damage (poisons). Reasoning is, mutilate just doesn't gain anywhere near as much crit as sub or combat.

chardev 9

I was thinking of this gear should do some awsome dps?

i mean i havent tested exactly with this gear yet iam going to get it only need like 4-5 items

1 of the reasons i only play with 277 gear + 284 is becuase it is more fun to own people in DPS in ICC with full icc gear then cata gear

 

[glancealot]

i don't know what my dps is but my rogue (see sig, no alchemy) can do big eviscerates due to mastery stacking.

 

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chardev 9

I was thinking of this gear should do some awsome dps?

i mean i havent tested exactly with this gear yet iam going to get it only need like 4-5 items

1 of the reasons i only play with 277 gear + 284 is becuase it is more fun to own people in DPS in ICC with full icc gear then cata gear

Check my BiS post in the BiS thread. you can get around 23 mastery with full ICC gear (well, almost), and most of the 277 pieces have more agi than the cata ones anyway. The thing for assassination is that agi isn't quite as strong as it is for combat or sub, and as such you might want to go for pieces that drop small numbers of agi for large amounts of mastery (only like a max of 10, you can make up a lot with reforging).

 

[Amaya]

My assassination chardev sims for about 25k, reforging into as much mastery as possible. I'd vanish twice in most fights in order to get extra regen and 3 total garrotes off, but didn't have the simulation do that.