Kaxle
OG
Pretty sure. Noticed it while playing my F2P but it coulda been a Deja sheets thing as haven't checked with the vanilla UI. I coulda also have just been mistaken but should be easy enough to confirm once at a computer with wow
EU+US [8.1.5] The ultimate F2P starter guide
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tedj
Veteran
Holy shit, this is confirmed. I've enchanted my legs with Light Armor Kit and it does not work, only Medium Armor does, both give 1 armor.
Sin'dor
Veteran
Nice work!
I appreciate how "concise" most of your summaries are, so I'll try to keep my "additions" to a minimum...
(...lowers her goggles and summons her "enchanted clipboard"...)
...this also excludes custom (or addon) /channel messages.
In addition:
https://xpoff.com/posts/1174838/
Also, since Epic Upgrades can be such a big deal to new players, I'd suggest you find room somewhere to squeeze-in the excellent summary video made by our own resident Snarky Soccer-Dad, @Chops:
...and keep in mind that any "rules" regarding which items can qualify for Epic Upgrades are "imperfect"; there are multiple odd "exceptions".
Reputation also gives small discounts at vendors of the appropriate faction, which can enable you to make purchases that would otherwise exceed your gold cap (like a Thick Hide Pack, for example).
(...dispels her "enchanted clipboard"...)
That's all I've got time for today...
If my nitpicking has been helpful, let me know and I'll give your guide another gander sometime. If you instead found this to be incredibly annoying, feel free to direct any complaints to @necroaqua.
I appreciate how "concise" most of your summaries are, so I'll try to keep my "additions" to a minimum...
(...lowers her goggles and summons her "enchanted clipboard"...)
While technically true, you should probably mention that the XP-Off™ crowd generally uses the term "F2P" to refer exclusively to "Starter Edition" trial accounts (i.e., excluding VETs)... also the "Pure/Linked F2P" distinction is probably worth a stronger highlight.
...might as well have "some further restrictions" linked to the official Blizzard™ Starter Edition article.
...you also aren't allowed to even sell an item if it could push you over that cap.
...this also excludes voice-chat.
...this also excludes custom (or addon) /channel messages.
...even though it's obvious, this should probably be "Can't join (or create) guilds".
...those same characters also wouldn't see:
- Your /party messages
- The descriptions from any of your emotes
In addition:
- You can't loot NPCs more than 10 levels above you
- Environmental objects (portals, chests, etc.) to/in "high-level zones" are usually level-restricted
- You can't participate in Pet Battles
- You can't use any paid character servives (realm transfer, faction change, etc.)
...there's also an community F2P addon that helps with this (and other things) for those without a "main".
https://xpoff.com/posts/1174838/
...chests are a "close, but not quite" situation:
If an item is only found in a particular "container", and that container happens to be a drop/reward that itself could otherwise "qualify" for a potential upgrade... then yes, transitivity would apply.
Also, since Epic Upgrades can be such a big deal to new players, I'd suggest you find room somewhere to squeeze-in the excellent summary video made by our own resident Snarky Soccer-Dad, @Chops:
...and keep in mind that any "rules" regarding which items can qualify for Epic Upgrades are "imperfect"; there are multiple odd "exceptions".
Given the context, I'm guessing you were going for something like: "The point of F2P is simply to have fun and do whatever you want to do."
Reputation also gives small discounts at vendors of the appropriate faction, which can enable you to make purchases that would otherwise exceed your gold cap (like a Thick Hide Pack, for example).
(...dispels her "enchanted clipboard"...)
That's all I've got time for today...
If my nitpicking has been helpful, let me know and I'll give your guide another gander sometime. If you instead found this to be incredibly annoying, feel free to direct any complaints to @necroaqua.
Brihan
Too much time spent on F2P addon dev
The F2P addon is the example of a custom channel that F2P can use
I'd complete by the fact that they don't see the descriptions of your emotes and they don't hear the emote sounds for 80% of the emotes. Which ones? You'd have to find out by yourself ... I'm not gonna expose the remaining sounds we still have
Cattywompus
Veteran
Fire festival has epic cloaks?they sure can
inc fyre festival
its gon be supa lit
Sin'dor
Veteran
Oops... that one was supposed to be part of the "10 levels above" section.The F2P addon is the example of a custom channel that F2P can use
I never bothered to test it... but I'd just assumed that it was related to which emotes had sounds that were synced to character-animations.I'd complete by the fact that they don't see the descriptions of your emotes and they don't hear the emote sounds for 80% of the emotes. Which ones? You'd have to find out by yourself ... I'm not gonna expose the remaining sounds we still have
Correct... also Epic Trinkets during Brewfest, Epic Rings during Hallow's End, and Epic Necklaces during Love is in the Air.
Cattywompus
Veteran
Sweet! I haven't twinked since cata, I just made 5 vets, so I am very stoked! The cloaks drop from a dungeon boss that you queue for, or something along those lines?Oops... that one was supposed to be part of the "10 levels above" section.
I never bothered to test it... but I'd just assumed that it was related to which emotes had sounds that were synced to character-animations.
Correct... also Epic Trinkets during Brewfest, Epic Rings during Hallow's End, and Epic Necklaces during Love is in the Air.
Chops
Soccer Dad
Yes.
In previous years, these holiday epics haven't been impressive and are often worse than dungeon/satchel gear. But with the update to epics in 8.1.5 it's possible that that's changed. We'll see in the fire festival.
If they HAVE updated (which I think they will) then the staff that drops will also probably alleviate a bunch of peoples foamspittle grind. It will lack the vers but otherwise will be on par.
Kaxle
OG
Is hoping for them to fix brewfest trinket procs a stretch?
Chops
Soccer Dad
So if I understand the problem correctly, the brewfest trinkets required level to equip was properly lowered, however the required level for the buff that the proc gives was never lowered. The melee trinket excepted.
So I wouldn't hold out too much hope. That said, if the ilvl is 32 this year, they'll be bis whether they proc or not.
tedj
Veteran
Sin'dor
Veteran
The F2P-addon has an integrated F2Pchat channel that works for everyone, but the "10 levels above" rule still applies when determining who actually sees your comments (just like /say).
Thanks for putting so much work into this!
Chops
Soccer Dad
The summer event drops the staff of a’hun (I think it’s called)
azzipnroc
Guest
how do you know they work? add-on?
my rogue is be, the +1 agi to cloak and +1 agi to bracer does not add any agility. i tried +1 stam to bracer, it did not add any stamina to my player
Crystalpall
the F2P PvEr
The F2P addon is the example of a custom channel that F2P can use
Trivia!
F2Paddon just sends a whisper to everyone that also has the addon on your server at the same time. This is why it auto-adds people to friendlist. It’s just formatted in a way to appear as a channel. Iirc you could format it to also look as a guild chat.
Sin'dor
Veteran
It's the Frostscythe of Lord Ahune... and just to be thorough, I whipped-up some filtered lists for all the holiday epics:
Midsummer Fire Festival - Epics
Brewfest - Epics
Hallow's End - Epics
Love is in The Air - Epics
I really shouldn't be this excited about seeing the holiday epics updated... but when you're rocking #ProtWithoutQuests, you gotta' take what you can get!
Ahhh... that explains it. So F2Ps really aren't able to use custom /channels, but the F2P-addon created a work-around to essentially "simulate" the functionality. Very cool!
...but if whispers are always a binary "you can or you can't" situation, what explains the "10 levels above" caveat for who sees the F2Pchat?
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Crystalpall
the F2P PvEr
Ahhh... that explains it. So F2Ps can't use custom /channels, but the F2P-addon created a work-around to essentially "simulate" the functionality. Very cool!
...but if whispers are always a binary "you can or you can't" situation, what explains the "10 levels above" caveat for who sees the F2Pchat?
I have no idea. What I just said was from a post by Yasueh (the F2PAddon creator) a couple of years ago.
Vandiir
Legend
This little trivia may not be worth editing into the OP, though it's a minor extra trivia that may interest some (if they somehow don't know):
That said, while F2Ps/20s can enter Gnomeregan, nearly all of the items dropped there are not useable by F2Ps/20s, though F2Ps/20s (at least in the past if not in the present) were able to learn some transmogs from some gears dropped in there (like my 20 vet [or linked-F2P] some time ago was able to learn the transmog of Grubbis Paws from that plate-glove dropping off a boss kill).
[I haven't checked yet if scalings have affected this or not, so I don't know if this trivia is still relevant or not]
The only thing dropped there that F2Ps can and have used, specifically hunters, is the Standard Scope dropped from box of assorted parts within Gnomeregan. While Deadmines has those boxes, Standard Scope doesn't drop from there; it only drops from boxes in Gnomeregan.
While F2Ps/20s can only queue for those dungeons, F2Ps/20s can enter Gnomeregan by walking into its instance entrance portals. Alliance can enter the instance located around here, while Hordes enter the instance through a engineer portal (engineering is not required to use) located at Grom'gol Base Camp in Northern Stranglethorn (and Hordes can get to that base through a blimp at Orgrimmar). It's a bit ironic that Horde players have an easier way to get to this Alliance-zone dungeon than Alliance players.
That said, while F2Ps/20s can enter Gnomeregan, nearly all of the items dropped there are not useable by F2Ps/20s, though F2Ps/20s (at least in the past if not in the present) were able to learn some transmogs from some gears dropped in there (like my 20 vet [or linked-F2P] some time ago was able to learn the transmog of Grubbis Paws from that plate-glove dropping off a boss kill).
[I haven't checked yet if scalings have affected this or not, so I don't know if this trivia is still relevant or not]
The only thing dropped there that F2Ps can and have used, specifically hunters, is the Standard Scope dropped from box of assorted parts within Gnomeregan. While Deadmines has those boxes, Standard Scope doesn't drop from there; it only drops from boxes in Gnomeregan.
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Kaxle
OG
+1 for the addon. Was nice being able to see the fellow F2P on the server, shits lonely now lmao