Dreams
fastest shadowstep in the west
I think they just don't care that much about things like community events (or community in general) and just want to play the strongest possible character within the bracket.
79 Twink Opinion Strawpoll
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Sogeking / Deeps
You're right that we want to play the strongest character, because well, twinking. PvE and rogue duels aren't a big draw for me but the idea that we somehow don't care about 'the' community is an interesting take that I don't quite understand. Care to elaborate?
Dreams
fastest shadowstep in the west
One of the biggest draws of playing 70 over 79 is the community so if you don't care that much about community I could see why you'd go 79.
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Sogeking / Deeps
Fair enough. I get what your saying, and I guess for you the 70s is the community. Although there are fewer 79s, there's certainly still a community and I have really enjoyed the folks I've fought alongside so far. Old school twinkers generally aim for x9 toons, and that's pretty much who I run into out there. So personally I really like the 79 community, but I can totally understand how having a passion for 70s puts us at odds. As I said before I think 70 twinks are super dope, and it's something I could see myself enjoying, especially now that I understand it better.
Dreams
fastest shadowstep in the west
I'm not aware of any oldschoolers playing 79? or do you mean oldschool twinks from other brackets?
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Sogeking / Deeps
Yeah just folks who've been doing it a long time. A 79 project isn't a small undertaking, you usually end up there after twinking most or all of the lower brackets.
villiansv
Veteran
Here's something to consider. Any community should strive to welcome new members and be friendly to newcomers. It's not farfetched to say that new twinks in this bracket will make a 79 first, for 3 reasons - x9 is standard twinking for most brackets, it's much easier to get BiS gear from running normal dungeons than to depend on weekly Sunwell lockouts, and 79 is simply stronger than 70 for reasons well known to all.
So what would be great would be if the community of existing guilded 70 twinks, when they spot a new 79 twinked player, reach out and say something along the lines of "hey, nice gear, have you thought about X trinket instead, etc" and then segue into "by the way, if you plan on playing this bracket a lot, have you considered making a 70 twink? we do raid, duel events etc?" That's the attitude that will make me stay in the bracket and put the effort into making a 70 twink.
Instead here's what my experience has been on my 79s (I only started twinking a couple of months ago): /spit from both enemy and friendly twinks, whispers from my own faction horde twinks saying "79s suck, you suck, blah blah" etc. Only once has someone said anything remotely friendly. Yes, once in 2 months, whereas the negative experiences have been in the double digits. There's also the indifferent/dismissive attitude I see in this thread as well.
I'm sure the 70 community has nice people too, but so far I have been rather disappointed in it as a whole. Zero desire to make an objectively weaker twink that takes a long time to gear to BiS just so I can join the community after my experience.
I do hope the overall attitude improves, unless I've simply been extremely unlucky and just keep running into rude and angry people all the time.
Edit: I play EU Horde, in case it's relevant.
So what would be great would be if the community of existing guilded 70 twinks, when they spot a new 79 twinked player, reach out and say something along the lines of "hey, nice gear, have you thought about X trinket instead, etc" and then segue into "by the way, if you plan on playing this bracket a lot, have you considered making a 70 twink? we do raid, duel events etc?" That's the attitude that will make me stay in the bracket and put the effort into making a 70 twink.
Instead here's what my experience has been on my 79s (I only started twinking a couple of months ago): /spit from both enemy and friendly twinks, whispers from my own faction horde twinks saying "79s suck, you suck, blah blah" etc. Only once has someone said anything remotely friendly. Yes, once in 2 months, whereas the negative experiences have been in the double digits. There's also the indifferent/dismissive attitude I see in this thread as well.
I'm sure the 70 community has nice people too, but so far I have been rather disappointed in it as a whole. Zero desire to make an objectively weaker twink that takes a long time to gear to BiS just so I can join the community after my experience.
I do hope the overall attitude improves, unless I've simply been extremely unlucky and just keep running into rude and angry people all the time.
Edit: I play EU Horde, in case it's relevant.
DAXinko
Veteran
Look - i was active 79/76/74 twink loooong time ago. Nowdays I have 5+ hours per week for WoW, so I just log my 69 and go BGs. I dont have a time to be part of some community or have WoW premade friends.
Some x0s think x9s do it coz of them, meanwhile I dont give two shits. No revenge or some bullshit... I found out these communities exist after joining xpoff.com.
BTW (correct me if I am wrong) gap between 70 and 79 is smaller than ever before, so IDK what are you so salty about. I remember how low levels were just missing with large amount of their abilities.
Some x0s think x9s do it coz of them, meanwhile I dont give two shits. No revenge or some bullshit... I found out these communities exist after joining xpoff.com.
BTW (correct me if I am wrong) gap between 70 and 79 is smaller than ever before, so IDK what are you so salty about. I remember how low levels were just missing with large amount of their abilities.
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tomxoqt
Grandfathered
EU Alliance, similar experience. I have met two lovely 70s - Shizana and Quayle. Others I have met have been either neutral (that's great) or toxic (not so great). What is your twink called? Perhaps I have played against you.
When it comes to old school twinkers not playing 79, it's simply not true. I've had my mage Thalzamar since Cata, and it was only in 8.0 I levelled him to 79. If you check his armoury you can see I have near 40k hks on him. Other twinkers like the dog-boy Swagsurfinx had also been twinking at 70 since Cata until 8.0.
villiansv
Veteran
You have, I've seen your hunter and spriest a few times. I usually play an enh shaman (Toveine-Nagrand) and a lot less often a mage (Elan-Nagrand), warrior (Gaidal-Nagrand) and hunter (Bonwhin-Runetotem).
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tomxoqt
Grandfathered
Yes! You are certainly a most formidable opponent. Without ass-licking, you are the single Horde I am most 'afraid' of, and one of the reasons I was inspired to make a mail-wearing twink.
busgaga
ARP loaded frust DK
Rofl
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He compares that to 19 29 39 etc lol.
Its not numbers itself, 1-60 is itself. Playing 70 is most likely an unwritten law.
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He compares that to 19 29 39 etc lol.
Its not numbers itself, 1-60 is itself. Playing 70 is most likely an unwritten law.
DAXinko
Veteran
Play what you enjoy.
Being hated, means you had an opinion and stood for something.
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Is enh shammy good at 79?
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Is enh shammy good at 79?
villiansv
Veteran
It works ok for me, the burst is probably the strongest of any class out there with the right procs, and the self heals are strong. You are somewhat vulnerable to pro kiters, but I don't meet many of those (I wish I did so I could practice more).
Blackberryy
TBC Classic
Honestly 79 twinks have been around since 70 twinks became possible. There are to many threads with this random back and forth. It’s unnessacary and frankly annoying to see people continually try to get people to argue about it
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Sogeking / Deeps
Was planning on taking my troll shammy to 79 also, although I'm doing a 59 dwarf with buddies first. There's a sexy looking one hander from TW BC that I just saw today that got me excited, because I'm not in love with too many one handers in 79s.
Glad to hear the burst potential is as high as I'd hoped though!
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It's almost like some people think they invented twinking in 2008. Personally I fell in love with 79s before they first separated xpoff queues and shafted us all. Moved tons of toons around to populous battle groups chasing the 29 and 39 community for a while and even rolled out squads of 'leveling' twinks who we'd only pvp with for the first half of each bracket. It was really fun actually taking on enemies who we we're gray to.
By cata I was done and gave up on a ton of projects that were all trashed by xpac changes. Now that I can actually get games in any bracket and there's no ilevel fuckery I've been having a blast with new and old projects.
Ramble, ramble sure, but point is twinking comes in a million flavors and no one is the gatekeeper. Just take pride in your character and find your own fun.