70 vs. 80

[Flowne]

I'm currently at the level of 69 and I was wondering, should I twink at 70 or level trough to 80?

I'm new to twinking so I was wondering which has the most 'benefits' or is the most fun?

I was hoping that somebody could make me a nice list like:

70 Pros and Cons
80 Pros and Cons

<3 Thanks in advance!

 

[Flowne]

Bump ^^

 

[Vaughne]

Protip: Stick with 70 unless you're a mage, spriest, or rogue.

70 pros:
- Pretty balanced overall
- Not bad queue times (5-15 minutes at peak time on US servers.)
- Very fun. No class is too OP.

70 cons:
- Rogues
- Queues won't pop much late at night or early mornings. Sometimes not at all.

80 pros:
- Good for Spriests and Mages
- Fun for Spriests and Mages

80 cons:
- Long queues, even at peak time.
- Not fun for everyone else.
- Not good for everyone else.
- Mages and Spriests global you. Seriously. (~50k shatters, ~30k mind blasts, ~30k instant pyroblasts.)

 

[Manaki]

Protip: Stick with 70 ESPECIALLY IF you're a mage, priest, or rogue.

70 pros:
- Pretty balanced overall ---- loljks Frost mages + tazik & Rogues with synapse.
- Not bad queue times (5-15 minutes at peak time on US servers.)
- Very fun. No class is too OP.---- loljks as i said before backpeddling mages can get 2k easy with tazik. DAT SHATTER

70 cons:
- Rogues
- AND MAGES
- AND TINKERS
- AND WINTRADING EU
- SO MUCH EPEEN
- SOME CLASSES/SPECS ARE SEVERELY HANDICAPPED WHILE OTHERS HAVE THEIR MAIN ABILITES
- NOT BALANCED AT ALL
- NOWADAYS EU HAS TROUBLE DOING 2v2 ARENA BECAUSE EVERYONE IS OFF TRADING EVERYTHING ELSE; 5-10min ques sometimes.
- Queues won't pop much late at night or early mornings. Sometimes not at all.

80 pros:
- Good for Spriests and Mages ... like all brackets.
- Fun for Spriests and Mages.. like all brackets.


80 cons:
- Long queues, even at peak time.
- Not fun for everyone else.
- Not good for everyone else.
- Mages and Spriests global you. Seriously. (~50k shatters, ~30k mind blasts, ~30k instant pyroblasts.)
- CATACLYSM GEAR = UNBALANCED
- PEOPLE ROLL 84s SO THEY CAN FACEROLL DA' BGS (40k hp lvl 80 vs 130k hp lvl 84.. FUN!)
- TINKERS ONCE AGAIN = MORE BURST

There we go, fixed :] overall 70 is better than 80.

 

[Jeego]

I'm currently at the level of 69 and I was wondering, should I twink at 70 or level trough to 80?

I'm new to twinking so I was wondering which has the most 'benefits' or is the most fun?

I was hoping that somebody could make me a nice list like:

70 Pros and Cons
80 Pros and Cons

<3 Thanks in advance!

Stick to 70 imo.

 

[Kirise]

In addition to the good lists of pros and cons above, I'll say that it depends on your preferences. I enjoy 80s on my resto shaman, but let there be no doubt -- the burst is insane. 84s aren't a big deal, with a couple of notable exceptions (e.g. blood DK). Most of them don't understand the radical secondary stat scaling and the gear budget of different levels. As Taitiah noted in a different thread, the 81s and 83s are the bigger deal -- they're the ones paying attention to how stat scaling and gearing works in the bracket. You also encounter far more undergeared players in 80s than you do in 70s. Gearing up for the bracket is very difficult compared to other brackets, and some account-capped players don't even realize they're now in XP-off battlegrounds -- that's the real problem. Still, I enjoyed 80s.

70s have significantly less burst, even with tinkers. But as noted above, mages and rogues hit harder than most. Pops happen much more frequently than 80s.

For all players new to twinking, I always recommend starting with 70-74. Going to 80-84 is an acquired taste, and many don't like it.

 

[Kipale]

80 is more like pve bracket for me

 

[Tetarius]

+1 to Manaki. 70 bracket is not very good balanced, but if you got hands/brain you will have high rates even without engineering. Yes, its all about RMP with tazik/synapse, but even with that it can be countered easily if you know what to do; i would recommend you to go gnome to get 3 tinkers at 465 engi ( others get 1 at 450 skill), hope for tazik/synapse, if not- relevel engi again, then go Faction Change to dwarf with frostres racial and get Leatherworking with frostres wrist enchant, +20 on head and +20 on cloak- and mages will not hurt you much.

3 classes that are very weak on 70 unless you got sick skillz : Warrior, Hunter, Warlock.

80 bracket is filled with 84s and that is a very big problem because 80-84 stats are "compressed" and its like pvping lvl 50 vs lvl 60 or something like that- ppl can global you, and on arena two 84s with any burst abilities can 1shot everything- hunters with kill shot, 2 ret paladins , frostmages etc. Queue times are long, there is no lvl80 twink alterac, usually its WSG only.

The most powerfull twink atm is lvl 79- you can queue for bg and leave before it ends without getting alot of XP ( or just pay 10g to freeze your XP after accepting the bg pop, you will have 0.5sec to do that, accepting BG macro + clicking on XP freeze -- yay i just spoiled the biggest twink bug). 75-79 leveling bracket is filled with a4 with no enchant/socket noobs that can be 1shotted- engineering(30k heal, 18k shield) + LW (stamina) are your friends.

 

[wamo]

70 bracket

Pros
-Fast que time both for bg and arena
-Tons of guilds. easy to form up a Rated bg
- Gear the gear is very cheap at least eh brutal pvp gear u only need aroudn 2200-2400 honor

Cons
-Eng is exteamly over powered at this bracket becouse of tazik ( a instant bolt of lighting that does up to 4800 nature damag) and springs (gives 400 something str, agillity or int depending on what spec you are) And you only get 1 try ( unless ur gnome u get 3 trys) to get or you have to reset eng and level it up again to get tazik or springs. Really makes the bracket very annoying to people who have yet to get the tinkers.

- Rogue, Mages, Priests dominate the bracket , you see way to many of them in arena

80 bracket
pros -

Fun PVE bracket , lots of Mounts, achivments and titles to earn here

Dailys- tons of dailys to do to make some gold

Cons

Mages , hunters , spriests are exteamly over powered at this bracket specally 81-84s

Que times are exteamly long that is the biggest down fall for this bracket

Gear - Becouse que times are long the pvp gear takes a long time to get, as you have to do heroics or cata randoms to get justice points then convert to honor, will take alot longer to earn the pvp gear.

Seems like no one stays 80 for long. Guilds seem to come and go all the time at this bracket, alot of people are always wanting to level.

Mop- In mop it will be very annoying as the new mop blues (lvl 80-84 level blues, greens) will mean this brackets going to turn into a 1 shot bracket and wont be a skill based bracket. (think blizzard hates twinks)

 

[Lúxýeú]

- Mages and Spriests global you. Seriously. (~50k shatters, ~30k mind blasts, ~30k instant pyroblasts.)

not rly accurate. mages 1 shot u in cata gear and so do Spriests, wont matter what your resili is.

i crited 120k + with mind blast on mine, fully buffed, flask, food, zerker buff and pot.


@ 80 stack Mastery and u win as mage or Spriest

 

[vixey]

I guess the biggest advantage of level80 twinking is how easy the gear is to get, you just need 1 friend to help you with boosts on dungeons to get the op mastery gear.

I'd try if I could be bothered leveling