70 Tier List?

Boomies have the highest burst of any casters in the bracket. If you're not doing good burst I see two options: either you're playing wrong or gearing wrong. How is boomies having to cast to burst any different from shadow priests or warlocks?
I'll tell you how it's different: shadow priests and warlocks don't have near the same kiting potential. It's way easier getting casts off against melees as a boomkin than any other caster in the bracket. And in a bracket mainly dominated by melees (ferals,dks,rogues,ww,etc), that's not a bad thing.

I'd like to see your armory before you complain about boomie damage again.

I'm not 100% saying they're bad. I'm also adding in the opinion of them compared to other classes. Of course they're better than Spriest and Warlock. Boomy is possibly the best caster, but to compare to to stuff like ferals and dks, its insane.

but my WIP boomy
 
I'm not 100% saying they're bad. I'm also adding in the opinion of them compared to other classes. Of course they're better than Spriest and Warlock. Boomy is possibly the best caster, but to compare to to stuff like ferals and dks, its insane.

but my WIP boomy
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Your gear looks like it's very much stuck in the mop expansion. You should be looking into the Spellfire and Whitemend sets. I'm not sure spellfire is worth but whitemend at least is extremely good.
Here is an armory Happyandhii @ Argent Dawn - Community - World of Warcraft
I don't think it's bis but it has way better gear than the druids you and [MENTION=25315]Gamed[/MENTION] linked for sure.
 
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Hi everyone, Im a long time wow player who just can't stand end game pvp anymore. I decided that instead of quiting wow I want to twink! I don't enjoy level 19 like most people do so I settled on 70 for arena skirms and bgs. I started leveling a pally and just hit 40, I planned to be prot as I had a prot pally 70 twink years ago that I loved but leveled one drunk night =\ Are prot pallys even good anymore? I started on a new realm, Area 52 which is probably not a great realm for twinks but I plan on making a twink of every class on the one realm :D
 
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Your gear looks like it's very much stuck in the mop expansion. You should be looking into the Spellfire and Whitemend sets. I'm not sure spellfire is worth but whitemend at least is extremely good.
Here is an armory Happyandhii @ Argent Dawn - Community - World of Warcraft
I don't think it's bis but it has way better gear than the druids you and [MENTION=25315]Gamed[/MENTION] linked for sure.
i don't see how losing 15% of every other stat for 5% more int is worth it, even losing all that armor too, i don't think i could ever go to wearing cloth on a druid, i just cant. i have seen druids with sp sets, about 2 times the cast time with 5% more damage, is probably good for pve . I don't feel like its that much stronger for pvp
 
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I have to agree tbh, there has only been one decent boomkin i've seen in arenas and he IS using the cloth pieces.

His damage is good, and his cc is good... the only downside is he dies in like 3 hits.
 
i don't see how losing 15% of every other stat for 5% more int is worth it, even losing all that armor too, i don't think i could ever go to wearing cloth on a druid, i just cant. i have seen druids with sp sets, about 2 times the cast time with 5% more damage, is probably good for pve . I don't feel like its that much stronger for pvp
It's undeniably better in pvp. Even in pve where ilvl is usually the most important thing, you actually get about equal damage with the whitemend set, even though it's ilvl 105. That says a lot about how powerful that set bonus is.
To give you an idea, a mage who is geared BiS mop style (mostly sunwell gear) gets 3-4k lances in pvp, where as a mage with spellfire and whitemend sets get 6k+ lances.

If you're not gemming straight int I don't think the spellfire set is worth it, but whitemend is always worth it on all casters. If you don't want to use cloth items for principle reasons, fine. Whatever. But you can't deny that it's BiS.
 
Hi everyone, Im a long time wow player who just can't stand end game pvp anymore. I decided that instead of quiting wow I want to twink! I don't enjoy level 19 like most people do so I settled on 70 for arena skirms and bgs. I started leveling a pally and just hit 40, I planned to be prot as I had a prot pally 70 twink years ago that I loved but leveled one drunk night =\ Are prot pallys even good anymore? I started on a new realm, Area 52 which is probably not a great realm for twinks but I plan on making a twink of every class on the one realm :D

Ret is better.

i don't see how losing 15% of every other stat for 5% more int is worth it, even losing all that armor too, i don't think i could ever go to wearing cloth on a druid, i just cant. i have seen druids with sp sets, about 2 times the cast time with 5% more damage, is probably good for pve . I don't feel like its that much stronger for pvp

Hahaha, ''all that armour'' thanks for the giggle man.

Whitemend is the undeniable Best in Slot set for clothies with spellfire being an optional thing, while Whitemend+Spellfire is just the best possible gear for Resto/Balance Druids and Ele/Resto Shaman.
 
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Hey, this is how2benice, but I won't be using that account anymore.
Your gear looks like it's very much stuck in the mop expansion. You should be looking into the Spellfire and Whitemend sets. I'm not sure spellfire is worth but whitemend at least is extremely good.
Here is an armory Happyandhii @ Argent Dawn - Community - World of Warcraft
I don't think it's bis but it has way better gear than the druids you and [MENTION=25315]Gamed[/MENTION] linked for sure.

I will work on getting the gear and test it out for myself. Thnx for the input.




edit : do you also think this gear should be used for a mage?
 
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i didn't, the people that created the tournament did. they said the sp sets are just unnecessary and make spell casters too op.
Wait, too op compared to what? Most melees heavily outdamage any caster with spellpower gear with just a little bit of decent gear. I realize it might not be op in your personal opinion but I'm just curious if the tournament hoster(s) clarified a bit.

I think the general perception on the EU realms is that the spellpower sets are what makes casters playable in a bracket otherwise completely dominated by melees.
 
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If it weren't for the spellpower sets, casters would just not be viable whatsoever, no exceptions.

What the fuck is a Shadow Priest going to do when his Devouring Plague crits 5k while literally every Melee does way more damage than that every 3rd or 4th global? Fury Warriors can go with stamina gems andd enchants and still crit 10k, how is any caster supposed to compete with that? What about DK damage, or Feral Druid, or Rogue?

It's bullshit to ban the one thing that makes casters playable.
 
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On U.S people hate on sp sets and actually banned it from the 2s and bg tourny's

The tournament leaders sound like a bunch of mouth breathers, this bracket is mostly melee dominated and removing the one thing that makes cloth casters viable is retarded
 
The tournament leaders sound like a bunch of mouth breathers, this bracket is mostly melee dominated and removing the one thing that makes cloth casters viable is retarded
Its actually funny tho because a hpal/spriest without the sp set actually beat ww/disc to win it. And yea we stated that multiple times but they would just deny
 
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Wait, too op compared to what? Most melees heavily outdamage any caster with spellpower gear with just a little bit of decent gear. I realize it might not be op in your personal opinion but I'm just curious if the tournament hoster(s) clarified a bit.

I think the general perception on the EU realms is that the spellpower sets are what makes casters playable in a bracket otherwise completely dominated by melees.
they would basically say that the sp was completely unneeded and you could do just fine with the 4 set tier and sunwell gear . If you have skill you don't need the sp set they said.And they were the ones who played classes like unholy dk and windwalker monk
 
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they would basically say that the sp was completely unneeded and you could do just fine with the 4 set tier and sunwell gear . If you have skill you don't need the sp set they said.And they were the ones who played classes like unholy dk and windwalker monk
Okay so rules were made for their own personal advantage, great.
 

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