OldmanrÃvers
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last night 11-12pm Eeastern time 60 Bg's poped last night and night prior to it . Im on US arthas ally with others who have 60 twinks. had to make a acct just to post to tell you guys all hope isnt lost.
60 games poppin off
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OldmanrÃvers
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Q up this around the time i q'd last night
OldmanrÃvers
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i was in bwl like 3 nights ago i had jumped into Q before AQ40 finished everything in aq40 was at Chromangus in bwl when my q poped about 3 hours 45 min later. but sometimes its really fast but thats rly only weekends
OldmanrÃvers
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Link to current WOW fourm 60 twink post Updates and what not. post as much as u can in there on your 60's
60's Roll Call - Forums - World of Warcraft
60's Roll Call - Forums - World of Warcraft
Chromaticity
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That's one huge thread you got there. 
Maybe a similar thread should be started on the EU forums aswell?
Maybe a similar thread should be started on the EU forums aswell?
OldmanrÃvers
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yea 2 pops today and i missed both
OldmanrÃvers
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i was talkin about the 2x that poped us
Chromaticity
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Mileylol said:
Yep, I was in both with my shaman.
OldmanrÃvers
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2x pops already today.
Deadpool1
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Hey Oldmanrivers I can help you out with your gearing a little if you hear me out. You mentioned you were getting rolled as Ret in the 60's Roll Call thread.
To put it bluntly if you use the right enchants and spec you will do just fine. Though I cant say how effective you will be once the new patch comes out nerfing WOG but meh thats what healers are for. Kinda wish I logged off in my classic ret gear.
For a spec just follow mine on my armory (second link)
Divine storm outside of PVE is absolutely worthless.
For gear try to avoid stacking agility as much as possible with the exception of getting the 22 agility enchant on your cloak. The scaling for agility is so poor that it is not worth getting. Takes 18 Agility for 1% crit. 14 crit rating for 1% crit. Most strength gear from raids comes with crit rating.
Enchanting:
As you may know any sort of opportunity to get class specific enchants on your helm or good shoulder enchants that are not armor kits is gone with ZG no longer available. So I will only account for what you can get.
1. Farm the mats and have Nethercleft Leg Armor - Game - World of Warcraft made for your legs or if you are lucky buy it off the AH. Most likely will cost 150-300g.
2. Formula: Enchant Bracer - Major Stamina - Game - World of Warcraft from the AH
3. Scroll of Enchant Chest - Super Health - Game - World of Warcraft From the AH
4. For your boots you have 3 choices depending on what matters more to you. You can get Formula: Enchant Boots - Greater Assault - Game - World of Warcraft , Scroll of Enchant Boots - Greater Fortitude - Game - World of Warcraft or Scroll of Enchant Boots - Icewalker - Game - World of Warcraft (tuskar's Vitality does no stack with Pursuit of Justice)
5. Scroll of Enchant Gloves - Crusher - Game - World of Warcraft or a stamina armor kit for your gloves.
As for professions finish up engineering and pick up mining for an additional 60 stamina from it's bonus once you hit 450 with it.
If you get all the classic pieces you need then add these enchants you should be fine and sitting around 7.5-8k health while hitting like a truck. With the patch coming up all paladins will be relying on a healer and taking time to use potions and casting self heals rather than relying on WOG and that is if the nerf goes through.
As for my Ret gear with classic pieces I am missing 3 trinkets and the gauntlets off C'thun but I am still hitting liek a truck and I am able to survive for quite a while until I get focused on by everyone who just watched me 2 shot their buddy with a lucky AOW proc.
When I feel like going all out I throw on my Arena set up. If you want to know what it is send me a PM.
To put it bluntly if you use the right enchants and spec you will do just fine. Though I cant say how effective you will be once the new patch comes out nerfing WOG but meh thats what healers are for. Kinda wish I logged off in my classic ret gear.
For a spec just follow mine on my armory (second link)
Divine storm outside of PVE is absolutely worthless.
For gear try to avoid stacking agility as much as possible with the exception of getting the 22 agility enchant on your cloak. The scaling for agility is so poor that it is not worth getting. Takes 18 Agility for 1% crit. 14 crit rating for 1% crit. Most strength gear from raids comes with crit rating.
Enchanting:
As you may know any sort of opportunity to get class specific enchants on your helm or good shoulder enchants that are not armor kits is gone with ZG no longer available. So I will only account for what you can get.
1. Farm the mats and have Nethercleft Leg Armor - Game - World of Warcraft made for your legs or if you are lucky buy it off the AH. Most likely will cost 150-300g.
2. Formula: Enchant Bracer - Major Stamina - Game - World of Warcraft from the AH
3. Scroll of Enchant Chest - Super Health - Game - World of Warcraft From the AH
4. For your boots you have 3 choices depending on what matters more to you. You can get Formula: Enchant Boots - Greater Assault - Game - World of Warcraft , Scroll of Enchant Boots - Greater Fortitude - Game - World of Warcraft or Scroll of Enchant Boots - Icewalker - Game - World of Warcraft (tuskar's Vitality does no stack with Pursuit of Justice)
5. Scroll of Enchant Gloves - Crusher - Game - World of Warcraft or a stamina armor kit for your gloves.
As for professions finish up engineering and pick up mining for an additional 60 stamina from it's bonus once you hit 450 with it.
If you get all the classic pieces you need then add these enchants you should be fine and sitting around 7.5-8k health while hitting like a truck. With the patch coming up all paladins will be relying on a healer and taking time to use potions and casting self heals rather than relying on WOG and that is if the nerf goes through.
As for my Ret gear with classic pieces I am missing 3 trinkets and the gauntlets off C'thun but I am still hitting liek a truck and I am able to survive for quite a while until I get focused on by everyone who just watched me 2 shot their buddy with a lucky AOW proc.
When I feel like going all out I throw on my Arena set up. If you want to know what it is send me a PM.
OldmanrÃvers
Legend
for some reason my 1st post never went trough but thank you for the info ive done alot of that over the last 2 days just need the leg enchant and a couple small mats for my 2x rocket launchers, in the last 3 days alone ive burned well over 10k+ gold on maxin this guy out. any good advice for a 2nd profession?
prebc
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go for alchemy coz it offers you more benefit than gathering professions buffs
1-flask durations increased to 2 hours and also gives %20-30 more benefit like for supreme power it adds extra 23 spell power
2-mad alchemist potion is also very cheap and best one for a lvl60, it also has side effects that gives you random elixirs (unless you have a flask buff on already); you can have one guardian and one battle elixir if you drink two
3-you can make your own healing and mana potion injectors, they give highest possible mana and hp and you already have engineering so you will receive %25 more hp or mana
1-flask durations increased to 2 hours and also gives %20-30 more benefit like for supreme power it adds extra 23 spell power
2-mad alchemist potion is also very cheap and best one for a lvl60, it also has side effects that gives you random elixirs (unless you have a flask buff on already); you can have one guardian and one battle elixir if you drink two
3-you can make your own healing and mana potion injectors, they give highest possible mana and hp and you already have engineering so you will receive %25 more hp or mana
Deadpool1
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450 mining = 60 stamina and pretty much supplies him with what he needs to make his trinket.
one trinket plus mining bonus by its self is 105 stamina = 1050 health with two trinket its 1500 health.
You get more static health from Engineering and Mining than any other professions and it costs you next to nothing to obtain that.
Other than the cost of leveling engineering (cheaper if you farm the mats) and making the trinket OR trinkets as he plans on doing for stamina stacking.
Which for ret is the wrong way to go once you hit 8k health seeing as it hits like a wet noodle without art of war procs and even worse if his crit is ungodly low. (believe me ret vs ret the one stacking stam gets rolled for not doing enough burst)
the only reason to stack stam is if you are playing prot because of how OP avenger's shield damage is and how it does not take a proc to use and amplify its damage unlike exorcism.
Sacrificing Attack power just so you can live longer and not kill anything before help arrives is asinine.
Why as a paladin player would you need to be a potion specialist? Seriously the self heals alone are enough and basic super healing potions are fine. Not to mention games only last for 30 minutes max and being a potion specialist would be worthless with how queues are broken. It is beneficial for PVE yeah but in PVP its lack luster unless you can get 450 alchemy. (you cant)
If anything he is better off buying flasks and pots than wasting the gold leveling alchemy seeing as he would need herbalism or another toon to farm the mats for him. As any other class though I would agree to getting alchemy but as a paladin mining is a better choice.
In the link below it is updated to show my arena set up. Mainly using the increased stun duration on my neck and decreased cool down on HOJ. The set up is barely below my BG gear set in attack power but the same stamina and crit rating.
good twinks have multiple gear set ups for different situations.
one trinket plus mining bonus by its self is 105 stamina = 1050 health with two trinket its 1500 health.
You get more static health from Engineering and Mining than any other professions and it costs you next to nothing to obtain that.
Other than the cost of leveling engineering (cheaper if you farm the mats) and making the trinket OR trinkets as he plans on doing for stamina stacking.
Which for ret is the wrong way to go once you hit 8k health seeing as it hits like a wet noodle without art of war procs and even worse if his crit is ungodly low. (believe me ret vs ret the one stacking stam gets rolled for not doing enough burst)
the only reason to stack stam is if you are playing prot because of how OP avenger's shield damage is and how it does not take a proc to use and amplify its damage unlike exorcism.
Sacrificing Attack power just so you can live longer and not kill anything before help arrives is asinine.
Why as a paladin player would you need to be a potion specialist? Seriously the self heals alone are enough and basic super healing potions are fine. Not to mention games only last for 30 minutes max and being a potion specialist would be worthless with how queues are broken. It is beneficial for PVE yeah but in PVP its lack luster unless you can get 450 alchemy. (you cant)
If anything he is better off buying flasks and pots than wasting the gold leveling alchemy seeing as he would need herbalism or another toon to farm the mats for him. As any other class though I would agree to getting alchemy but as a paladin mining is a better choice.
In the link below it is updated to show my arena set up. Mainly using the increased stun duration on my neck and decreased cool down on HOJ. The set up is barely below my BG gear set in attack power but the same stamina and crit rating.
good twinks have multiple gear set ups for different situations.
OldmanrÃvers
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ok i got my 2x rocket launchers done, you say mining i wont rly need the mats for engineering any more but if that's the best that's what im gonna do. ive been slowly turning my stam gems into Str but i do want to stay above 9k hp. you have a beautiful pally btw