stickymitten said:
Cus ret's are imba.
HoF and Hamstrings + tremor should be plenty to stick on target for the 10-15 sec needed to kill someone
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Cus ret's are imba.
HoF and Hamstrings + tremor should be plenty to stick on target for the 10-15 sec needed to kill someone
lindenkron said:
Only one of his teams includes a hunter, and some of the teams listed (mage/lock/shaman, war/lock/druid, any 2 melee dps team) are flat out abysmal. As far as priests go, are priests in EU really that terrible that they dont know how to stay out of charge/wingclip range? In a Hunter/Shaman/Priest team specifically, its retardedly easy for the priest to just stay behind the hunter/shaman to maintain dispels on targets combined with reasonable heals. Shaman survivability is mitigated by the fact its not hard at all for a priest to be OOC a good part of the time, provided he has teammates who arent mouthbreathers that know how to peel DPS.
Falaris said:
You dont NEED a hunter to be viable, something you misunderstood there.
Sham/Hunter/Lock would wreck the fuck out of your ret/war/sham lindenkron, wingclip warrior, fear ret, beat the shit out of the shaman with windshear/batstun, there is literally nothing you can do there.
Your warriors hamstrings are almost pointless, hunter can still shoot the shaman, lock can still dot/fear, shaman can still shear.
Oh and before you bring up HoJ, thats a 1 minute cooldown which stops two seconds of damage from one of the Sham/Hunt/Lock, oh and who would you go for just out of interest?
Because i feel that your double melee cold be peeled with clips, fears and earthbinds really easily, especially seeing as you have no dispels.
Your warriors hamstrings are almost pointless, hunter can still shoot the shaman, lock can still dot/fear, shaman can still shear.
Oh and before you bring up HoJ, thats a 1 minute cooldown which stops two seconds of damage from one of the Sham/Hunt/Lock, oh and who would you go for just out of interest?
Because i feel that your double melee cold be peeled with clips, fears and earthbinds really easily, especially seeing as you have no dispels.
stickymitten said:
So waht makes you think the warrior would attack the hunter?
IMO a smart warrior would hamstring a Shaman and just wreck the shaman. Yes I agree your combo is better. Now a Holy paladin with all that would be unstopable IMHO. A paladin that never runs out of mana xD with a good shaman and Warrior would be really good. A balanced specced Shaman mainly SP and INT with Deadskull shield with +7stam and devout aurostone hammer with +30 sp would wreck. Shaman and holy paladins are OP enough. I think that would be a good combo.
Read my blog post on fire mages. I think a combo of three fire mages that communicate on Ventrilo or TeamSpeak to coordinate their spells would let you drop from 1200 to 0 health in 1 second. This would be a counter for every other setup not rolling full-out stamina, and even if they'd run full stamina fire mages would have a huge advantage. Tactic? Depending on the arena you simply stay in a corner to LOS ranged and force them into range of your fire blast, while if you're up against melee you CC them to get them into position before you finish them off with 3 fireballs + 3 fire blasts. And yes, that's 1200 damage with no crits.
Falaris said:
You ignorance speaks for itself.
stickymitten said:
You're miscalculating it. Who is the clothie? The warlock. Who does dmg? 3 melees. You got a shaman with tremor totem up, and 3 DPS chewing through the warlock. Yes, you have a hunter dpsing, gz. You got 3x LBs and 3x GotN he have to nuke through first, while his shaman is fight a lost battle to keep his warlock up. Sheers on fears / heals and just nuke the warlock down. They would win if they don't go retard mode and walk into a kite trap. Simple
lindenkron said:You ignorance speaks for itself.
You're miscalculating it. Who is the clothie? The warlock. Who does dmg? 3 melees. You got a shaman with tremor totem up, and 3 DPS chewing through the warlock. Yes, you have a hunter dpsing, gz. You got 3x LBs and 3x GotN he have to nuke through first, while his shaman is fight a lost battle to keep his warlock up. Sheers on fears / heals and just nuke the warlock down. They would win if they don't go retard mode and walk into a kite trap. Simple
Clearly the warrior stealths past the hunter and shaman to be able to magically appear on the warlock. Let me guess, in EU they have SUPER HAND OF FREEDOM that is cant be dispelled and hits 2 targets at once, right? Bottom line is the warrior contributes absolutely nothing against Hunter/Shaman/Warlock, and the Ret doesnt get to do alot either. Gl with that 1.5v3
In EU we actually have warriors that can get on the proper target, yes Falaris . Btw, do you even play a 19 twink? Have you ever done arena? Just curious since I havn't ever heard of you in-game.
. Btw, do you even play a 19 twink? Have you ever done arena? Just curious since I havn't ever heard of you in-game.lindenkron said:In EU we actually have warriors that can get on the proper target, yes Falaris
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Well, since clearly you have this all figured out, why dont you explain to us lowly peons how a warrior navigates past a hunter and shaman to get in melee on a warlock that is a solid 10-15 yards behind the other 2 members of his team.
Falaris said:
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Rayu said:
lmao that is the dumbest idea rayu, how about this, the sham/hunter/warlock all pop agm, then proceed to insta gib the low hp sp stacking mages, purging agms as needed. Also, you probably wouldnt need to even do that, 2.5 fireball with spec (i think) is VERY easily LOSable especially when you know where all of the mages are at any time...
@Linden: yup i would also like to know how the warrior gets a charge off against sham/hunter/lock, all three have an insta cast ranged attack. In addition to this, what prevents the ret pally (who according to you just charges the lock) from being feared in the 20 yards between him and his target? Not to mention slowed by EB or clip.
Falaris said:
No, I just lost all lust for discussing theorycrafting with you after seeing your actual character. A GNOME .. ROGUE .. Pink haired combat specced.. god.. Just lost any belief in what ever you throw out, since you clearly havn't even done a 3v3 match in your life
. Just thought the Champion shit fitted in, cus I've been listening to it for 15 min now. It's pimp.Who needs to get charge off Sticky? There's LoS for a reason. I can assure you no shaman / hunter want to come in melee of a warrior / ret, you don't open on a warlock ofc, you sease the opportunity when the warlock come to join the battle (otherwise it's pretty much 3v2, which is still at their advantage.
I love how you tree huggers are all like "Throw random OP classes together and it's unbeatable". You should throw in some player factors imo. And positioning. But meh, just my 10 cents.
lindenkron said:No, I just lost all lust for discussing theorycrafting with you after seeing your actual character. A GNOME .. ROGUE .. Pink haired combat specced.. god.. Just lost any belief in what ever you throw out, since you clearly havn't even done a 3v3 match in your life
Who needs to get charge off Sticky? There's LoS for a reason. I can assure you no shaman / hunter want to come in melee of a warrior / ret, you don't open on a warlock ofc, you sease the opportunity when the warlock come to join the battle (otherwise it's pretty much 3v2, which is still at their advantage.
I love how you tree huggers are all like "Throw random OP classes together and it's unbeatable". You should throw in some player factors imo. And positioning. But meh, just my 10 cents.
Its not theorycrafting if ive run the comp and come up against it, derp.
And your saying that your strat is hide behind a pillar with your ret/warrior till we come in range? lmao, thats gonna help the shaman survive the dots and ranged dps.
And because falaris' main isnt currently geared for arena his opinion is worthless? wow.
Also, for what reason would a warlock run within range off hamstring, youre playing the situation out as though everyone just blindly charges into your pillar trap.
lindenkron said:No, I just lost all lust for discussing theorycrafting with you after seeing your actual character. A GNOME .. ROGUE .. Pink haired combat specced.. god.. Just lost any belief in what ever you throw out, since you clearly havn't even done a 3v3 match in your life
Who needs to get charge off Sticky? There's LoS for a reason. I can assure you no shaman / hunter want to come in melee of a warrior / ret, you don't open on a warlock ofc, you sease the opportunity when the warlock come to join the battle (otherwise it's pretty much 3v2, which is still at their advantage.
I love how you tree huggers are all like "Throw random OP classes together and it's unbeatable". You should throw in some player factors imo. And positioning. But meh, just my 10 cents.
The post Im quoting is a good reason why smart US players make fun of EU players all the time. I pray to god youre not considered respectable by your peers, because statements like those are making everyone else aware that you really have absolutely no idea what youre talking about in regards to 19.... well anything. You make fun of Gnome for a rogue. You trash talk the best WSG spec (with the possible switch of precision for gouge, but debatable). Btw, I got a chuckle out of you accusing quite possibly the most experienced twink rogue in the history of twinking of never doing a 3v3.
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