29 Rogue gear changes
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Elixiy
Legend
Hi !
I think that if you are trying to make a new 29 rogue, it would be less powerful than before 4.0.3a, because half of the armor set came from Nesingwary's hunting quests in Stanglethorn Valley. But now, the quests are for lvl 20-25 players, so the rewards are no more BC enchantable... =(
Here is what I would do :
Head : If you are horde player, Tribal Worg Helm is my choice. If you are alliance player, it would be without a doubt Rifle Commander's Eyepatch, easily obtainable in stormwind (quest in the prison)
Neck : unchanged, warsong gulch reward necklace is the best
Shoulders : Forest Tracker Epaulets, or heirloom
Back : unchanged, Parachute Cloak is the best, because you can put 12 agility on it.
Chest : As Raptor Hunter Tunic disappeared with 4.0.3a, I think that the best chest armor would be heirloom... :'(
Wrist : unchanged, Barbaric Bracers are the best (craft)
Gloves : Before 4.0.3a, the best gloves were Tiger Hunter Gloves (BC enchantable). Now, I think Dog Training Gloves are the best, with 15 agility on it.
Waist : unchanged, Arathi PVP reward is the best (Defiler's Leather Girdle)
Legs : The best pants are Troll's Bane Leggings (8sta 14agi), with 2 more agility than Petrolspill Leggings. Ferine Leggings now require lvl 30, and Triprunner Dungarees now have 12 agility instead of 18 before 4.0.3a update =(
Feet : unchanged : Arathi PVP reward is the best (Defiler's Leather Boots)
Rings : You have man choices, but I think that Deadman's Hand is a must-have. I wear it with Legionnaire's Band (Warsong Gulch PVP reward). It gives a good balance between stamina and agility
Trinkets : Arena Grand Master is the best. You can also buy its "light version", which is the Arathi PVP reward trinket that also gives you a shield, but no stamina. Wear it with an Insigna of the horde.
For weapons, you have a lot of choice. The only bad thing is that now Skullbreaker is not available anymore in game. Besides, for those who had one before the update, be aware of the stats changes : it is not a healer's weapon anymore. It now gives you 6 stamina + 6 agility + 6 hit, and it's still enchantable with Mongoose. According to me, it's the best main hand weapon ever for this lvl. It deals incredible damages, even better than daggers for ambushes ! oO
Here is my twink : The World of Warcraft Armory - Enah @ Dalaran - Profile
Feel free to /w me on french server Dalaran =) If you think I made some mistakes, correct me !
PS : forgive my weird english, I'm french...
I think that if you are trying to make a new 29 rogue, it would be less powerful than before 4.0.3a, because half of the armor set came from Nesingwary's hunting quests in Stanglethorn Valley. But now, the quests are for lvl 20-25 players, so the rewards are no more BC enchantable... =(
Here is what I would do :
Head : If you are horde player, Tribal Worg Helm is my choice. If you are alliance player, it would be without a doubt Rifle Commander's Eyepatch, easily obtainable in stormwind (quest in the prison)
Neck : unchanged, warsong gulch reward necklace is the best
Shoulders : Forest Tracker Epaulets, or heirloom
Back : unchanged, Parachute Cloak is the best, because you can put 12 agility on it.
Chest : As Raptor Hunter Tunic disappeared with 4.0.3a, I think that the best chest armor would be heirloom... :'(
Wrist : unchanged, Barbaric Bracers are the best (craft)
Gloves : Before 4.0.3a, the best gloves were Tiger Hunter Gloves (BC enchantable). Now, I think Dog Training Gloves are the best, with 15 agility on it.
Waist : unchanged, Arathi PVP reward is the best (Defiler's Leather Girdle)
Legs : The best pants are Troll's Bane Leggings (8sta 14agi), with 2 more agility than Petrolspill Leggings. Ferine Leggings now require lvl 30, and Triprunner Dungarees now have 12 agility instead of 18 before 4.0.3a update =(
Feet : unchanged : Arathi PVP reward is the best (Defiler's Leather Boots)
Rings : You have man choices, but I think that Deadman's Hand is a must-have. I wear it with Legionnaire's Band (Warsong Gulch PVP reward). It gives a good balance between stamina and agility
Trinkets : Arena Grand Master is the best. You can also buy its "light version", which is the Arathi PVP reward trinket that also gives you a shield, but no stamina. Wear it with an Insigna of the horde.
For weapons, you have a lot of choice. The only bad thing is that now Skullbreaker is not available anymore in game. Besides, for those who had one before the update, be aware of the stats changes : it is not a healer's weapon anymore. It now gives you 6 stamina + 6 agility + 6 hit, and it's still enchantable with Mongoose. According to me, it's the best main hand weapon ever for this lvl. It deals incredible damages, even better than daggers for ambushes ! oO
Here is my twink : The World of Warcraft Armory - Enah @ Dalaran - Profile
Feel free to /w me on french server Dalaran =) If you think I made some mistakes, correct me !
PS : forgive my weird english, I'm french...
Falaris
OG
Elixiy said:
I havent read all the changes to be honest, but Tigerstrike Mantle is back to being the best cloak. Stealth to cloak is now '8 agility 8 dodge rating', and 8/7 monkey stats with that enchant is better than 8 agility with a 12 agi enchant.
Also, BoA chest was better than Raptor Tunic before patch, so yes, itll still be better than Raptor Tunic after the patch.
Obe
OG
Nice list, Achmed.
I want to add this chest: Temple's Vest
It's a quite nice alternative if you don't have access to BoAs or the Raptor Hunter Tunic. Alliance only, though. Quest reward from Gnomeregan.
Also, it's important with situational gear when playing a rogue. Sometimes I'll use parachute cloak for the ability and looks, and sometimes the Tigerstrike Mantle.
Edit:
I'd also like to add these shoulders: Defiant Spire Shoulderguard nice option if you need hit rating but can't get the BoAs.
I guess Doomspike could be a quite nice off-hand.
I want to add this chest: Temple's Vest
It's a quite nice alternative if you don't have access to BoAs or the Raptor Hunter Tunic. Alliance only, though. Quest reward from Gnomeregan.
Also, it's important with situational gear when playing a rogue. Sometimes I'll use parachute cloak for the ability and looks, and sometimes the Tigerstrike Mantle.
Edit:
I'd also like to add these shoulders: Defiant Spire Shoulderguard nice option if you need hit rating but can't get the BoAs.
I guess Doomspike could be a quite nice off-hand.
El Vago
Legend
Ebon Vise is now the same as the Dog Training Gloves with the latter's hit replaced with crit. Might be worth it now.
Was wondering if the PvP heirloom dagger is viable now with the Vendetta nerf. Not many decent weapons around with a speed as fast as 1.5.
Was wondering if the PvP heirloom dagger is viable now with the Vendetta nerf. Not many decent weapons around with a speed as fast as 1.5.
Sav of the Horde
Legend
Silent Footpads TBC enchantable boots that seem to be available for 29 horde atm not sure about ally. Can put Boar's Speed Cat's Swiftness and Surefooted
Vigorous Handguards are also item lvl 35 so you can slap +15 hit rating on them
Vigorous Handguards are also item lvl 35 so you can slap +15 hit rating on them
ScatMan103
OG
Sav of the Horde said:
Those boots arn't obtainable to 29's. The quest is part of a chain and the quest to start that chain requires level 30.
Sav of the Horde
Legend
ScatMan103 said:
is there a lvl 30 quest or something required to get Maraudine Prisoner Manifest to drop? it starts the chain for the boots and requires lvl 28 but I can't get it to drop.
Sav of the Horde said:
I got the Maraudine Prisoner Manifest - Item - World of Warcraft , cant start it though, asked a GM and he said that it will be "fixed".
If they change the tooltip or lower the reqlevel I dont know.
You can only obtain the qitem while doing (or have completed it ofc) this quest Not So Fast! - Quest - World of Warcraft
btw, if we can start it after the "fix" we will also be able to choose these from the last quest in that chain
http://www.wowhead.com/item=55915
http://www.wowhead.com/item=55916
http://www.wowhead.com/item=55917
Micko
OG
Thanks guys for the comprehensive list of items. Here are few interesting items as well:
Monkey Ring -- best dps ring in this bracket imo (grandfathered).
Nail Spitter (grandfathered), and Glass Shooter.
Gloomshroud Armor and Gilt Cuirass are good alternatives to boa chest if you are hit capped.
Also, according to Dr. Damage (which doesn't show correct values for abilities atm) , Ironspine's Fist with 20agi as offhand is slightly better for mainhand dps than boa mace,dagger , WSG dagger or torturing poker. It's low speed makes it less desirable as offhand though.
What wepon would you guys prefer for offhand ?
Monkey Ring -- best dps ring in this bracket imo (grandfathered).
Nail Spitter (grandfathered), and Glass Shooter.
Gloomshroud Armor and Gilt Cuirass are good alternatives to boa chest if you are hit capped.
Also, according to Dr. Damage (which doesn't show correct values for abilities atm) , Ironspine's Fist with 20agi as offhand is slightly better for mainhand dps than boa mace,dagger , WSG dagger or torturing poker. It's low speed makes it less desirable as offhand though.
What wepon would you guys prefer for offhand ?
shanker
OG
it when you are doing various back and forth khan type quests. i had it and dropped it weeks ago. read the comments on the link of the item you posted
Maraudine Prisoner Manifest - Item - World of Warcraft
Maraudine Prisoner Manifest - Item - World of Warcraft
shanker
OG
Micko said:
doubt too many would ever have Monkey Ring - Item - World of Warcraft, since it was a crappy green long ago
Ironspine's Fist - Item - World of Warcraft is no longer a 35+ item. it would have been rare for a 29 twink to have a item they can't use in bags/bank with a BC enchant already on it to boot on the hopes it would get nerfed down in the future
Micko
OG
shanker said:
I agree with you but I was fortunate enough not to vendor it, so it was sitting in my bank among other greens i used to level with
. However, on my priest and warrior I vendored other rewards from that quest /sigh .As for Ironspine's Fist, it was known few weeks prior to Cata release that most of the loot from SM will have their item levels changed so there was a window of opportunity for everyone to get what they want from Graveyard and Library.