26/04-15 EU Wargame

Gottha said:
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/item/65915?wowLocale=0 - I would say this is an advantage too. Please hordes, next time get the best you can from the f2p gear. If no lucky with the fishing hat, at least make googles.
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Nah, Lord Walden's Top Hat - Item - World of Warcraft is bis. The reason ally won was because of our sustained mid control while playing good defense. Horde healers got caught up in mid and nearly never peeled off to assist fc, even when he was commiting ramp. Horde's boomy could've one the same thing, actually the boomy would've hit harder than me because i had nearly under 200 sp and gear only 1/2 suitable compared to bis. Our team played more around the idea of capture the flag, where horde became too centered on taking mid-field. Whenever i would leave my team, they would only have 2 heals compared to 3 horde heals and our rouge was more stealthed and waiting for saps or positioning himself than killing so we were also down a dps. Our strategy could've been countered (although i think the rogue was a much more deciding factor)
 
Lankypuss said:
Not sure why ferocious bite needs to be banned, even with high stacks, a gdruid doesn't get 100% - 0% by a bite from resto/boomy. Ferals are banned because they can 100-0 FC's as they have savage roar (>40%) and Tiger's fury (%15). FC's can survive it if healers are paying attention and are on the ball, but last premade I noticed that Dancing was playing with WC which just put him as a sitting duck since he can't displacer away from the rogue. But overall, the thing that "screws games" imo was the fact only two people were talking in your skype.
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Was a rule in 2s-tourney US iirc to play without FB. Like I wrote, its not the feral dmg thats nasty its the unpredictable FBs and it doesnt matter if its Feral or Resto. Ofc ferals is higher but 2k from a healer isnt fun after all^^. You can see it quite some times in stream (for example @9:30). So I wouldnt mind to let ferals back in but play without Bite whatsoever. But thats totally just my opinion.

Regarding Skype its kinda easy: u cant force ppl to talk. Esp. not when its always half a new team.
Some ppl cant some ppl wont. I myself cant talk on these sunday-dates but could do weekdays (which is why I prefer those).
But ofc ur absolutely right with the statement.
All in all it was rly fun and close games (we dont talk about the 3.^^)
 
Spiriel said:
Was a rule in 2s-tourney US iirc to play without FB. Like I wrote, its not the feral dmg thats nasty its the unpredictable FBs and it doesnt matter if its Feral or Resto. Ofc ferals is higher but 2k from a healer isnt fun after all^^. You can see it quite some times in stream (for example @9:30). So I wouldnt mind to let ferals back in but play without Bite whatsoever. But thats totally just my opinion.

Regarding Skype its kinda easy: u cant force ppl to talk. Esp. not when its always half a new team.
Some ppl cant some ppl wont. I myself cant talk on these sunday-dates but could do weekdays (which is why I prefer those).
But ofc ur absolutely right with the statement.
All in all it was rly fun and close games (we dont talk about the 3.^^)
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The rule in the 2v2 was that boomys and ferals could not bite, but restos can. Ferals as I mentioned could one shot and so could boomys with Starsurge > Displacer> 5 cp bite. Although I understand what you mean, I still disagree about banning FB. You also need to notice that @9.30 on stream, there was a monk, a rogue and rdruid on your FC at 12 stacks. When the rdruid used bite, Dancing had around 2.5k HP. If the horde team had better positioning, this would not have been the case, also you had a boomy in your team who didn't utilize all his abilities including cat form. If he for example, gathered CP's on pets or whatever and timed bite with a rogue opener, you could have won some games since you still had 3 healers with FC/ MID.

Our rdruid going offense meant that we only had 2 healers keeping mid up, so to be fair, you had a bit of advantage which unfortunately wasn't utilized properly. However it was fun games indeed and we could all improve for next time!
 
Lankypuss said:
The rule in the 2v2 was that boomys and ferals could not bite, but restos can. Ferals as I mentioned could one shot and so could boomys with Starsurge > Displacer> 5 cp bite. Although I understand what you mean, I still disagree about banning FB. You also need to notice that @9.30 on stream, there was a monk, a rogue and rdruid on your FC at 12 stacks. When the rdruid used bite, Dancing had around 2.5k HP. If the horde team had better positioning, this would not have been the case, also you had a boomy in your team who didn't utilize all his abilities including cat form. If he for example, gathered CP's on pets or whatever and timed bite with a rogue opener, you could have won some games since you still had 3 healers with FC/ MID.

Our rdruid going offense meant that we only had 2 healers keeping mid up, so to be fair, you had a bit of advantage which unfortunately wasn't utilized properly. However it was fun games indeed and we could all improve for next time!
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I used fero bite obv. but i couldnt leave the team alone since i had to think for all of them....without any targets being called we would have wiped in like 1mins......

+ Dunno why all this discussions now:
First game we had 1 healer down like half of the game, thats why you got the kill on efc at the end.
Second game we could have capped, but mistakes were made.
Third game - Horde got rekt

so GGs, lay low and relax :p
 
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I think feral should stay banned. Although I dont assume anyone will voilate the rules on purpose or anything, banning only certain abilities makes it harder to secure the person is not using them (even by accident). Its also so strong to the point that a player single-handedly could turn a game around which kills the teamplay aspect in wargames. Too much would rely on the feral being smart imo - dont think wargames should be one-man-shows.

Concerning alliance winning:
The teams were even and both played very well. I was just surprised that the horde team focused Hypelol and me so little since Ereo was in offence most of the time.
Its probably not the only reason, mistakes were made on both sides.

I hope there is going to be another one very soon! :)
 
Lankypuss said:
Hope [MENTION=16240]Goesid[/MENTION] or [MENTION=18878]AlbinoCow[/MENTION] are making a thread for next week
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I can't but if someone else wants to take over feel free to steal my improved version of the format I stole from albino.
 
I think/hope you're not arguing. Seen the recorded stream. I agree people on horde were kinda quiet during the game but i don't put the loss on this only. It's a new team that needs to learn to work toghether(synergy and stuff) and all should listen and coordinate on/with TCaller, that's all. When they will manage to do that, they don't even need to make a sound and things will be better on the field. This will come in time then give it time and don't give up on games even if you lose.

Now stupid ego's and or trolling should be allowed otherwise this interesting project will die soon.
 
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Achmed said:
I think/hope you're not arguing. Seen the recorded stream. I agree people on horde were kinda quiet during the game but i don't put the loss on this only. It's a new team that needs to learn to work toghether(synergy and stuff) and all should listen and coordinate on/with TCaller, that's all. When they will manage to do that, they don't even need to make a sound and things will be better on the field. This will come in time then give it time and don't give up on games even if you lose.

Now stupid ego's and or trolling should be allowed otherwise this interesting project will die soon.
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wut else do u see in ur crystal ball?
 
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