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TI needs a forum for 24's. The relentless spin from F2P players in topics in the 20-24 bracket is a detractor and does not make P2P players comfortable. It borders on harassment. The F2P have their own forum and the P2P should as well. Moderation should warn, move and remove topics and replies that are better suited in either the bracket forum or the F2P.

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24s invade the f2p forums all the time...
 
You have a forum for 24s...it is the 20-24 forum. Why do you need something else 100% level specific? I am not getting it apparently.
 
I will try to explain. F2P and 20's by choice do everything from seemingly nice spin to trolling to garbage posts to outright flaming 24's in the bracket forum. They are attempting to shame or convince 24's to either abandon their twink in favor of a 20 or abandon the bracket. They do this in all topics using the variety of methods listed above. Some are quite artful about it but it adds up to harassment and only serves to drive away potential participants and new members. The fluff/garbage and off topic replies by them is used to derail a topic. The topics all get spun to this major issue (in their minds) and prevents the normal flow of a topic.

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everything from seemingly nice spin to trolling to garbage posts to outright flaming
This is exactly what happens on every forum. You get users with nice posts, imbeciles and trolls / griefers. It has nothing to do with the level the users turn off XP at.

They are attempting to shame or convince 24's to either abandon their twink in favor of a 20 or abandon the bracket. They do this in all topics using the variety of methods listed above. Some are quite artful about it but it adds up to harassment and only serves to drive away potential participants and new members. The fluff/garbage and off topic replies by them is used to derail a topic. The topics all get spun to this major issue (in their minds) and prevents the normal flow of a topic.
Conspiracy theory much? Where do you get the insight and authority to decide that an entire group of people ranging from users with nice posts, imbeciles and trolls / griefers are all working towards the same nefarious goal?

I can't know the thoughts of every poster on here, so I can't say for sure that there's no-one like that, but I certainly wouldn't bother with such an insipid scheme.

I am indeed happy if a person I like playing with tries how they like a 20 on a server I play on, because it means I can play with them more often. I would never try to shame my friends into doing anything, and I could not care less about what people I'm not friendly with do. I do not appreciate blanket accusations against every person turning XP off at 20, just the same as I do not appreciate blanket accusations against 24s. I'm sure you do not like them either.

I personally post in the 20-24 section because that's the bracket I play in. I play with and against 24s. I like several people who play a 24. Twinkinfo is a forum for discussion of the different twink battleground brackets.

24s are allowed to post in the F2P section, if they want to discuss or ask questions about playing with F2P restrictions. 70s are allowed to post in the F2P section, if they want to discuss or ask questions about playing with F2P restrictions. 19s are allowed to post in the F2P section, if they want to discuss or ask questions about playing with F2P restrictiosn. Anyone should be, as long as they post according to the CoC.

20s are allowed to post in the 20-24 section, if they want to discuss or ask questions about the bracket, as long as it's not specifically about F2P restrictions. 20s are allowed to post in the 10-14 section, if they want to discuss or ask questions about the bracket. 20s are allowed to post in the 70-79 section, if they want to discuss or ask questions about the bracket. Anyone should be, as long as they post according to the CoC.

The people that bother you should be the trolls / griefers. They are not posting according to the CoC. They should receive warnings and bans, regardless of where they stop their XP.

The topics all get spun to this major issue (in their minds) and prevents the normal flow of a topic.
Again, blanket accusation, do not appreciate. But if you feel that each and every post gets spun to this evil mastermind plan, report each thread you notice this in. Taking threads off topic is against the CoC. Mods could just as easily post in a thread and end off-topic discussions. A lock would not always be required if people started reporting problematic content earlier.


tl;dr:
- You don't like accusatory statements beginning with "All 24s are..." because you are an individual. I don't like accusatory statements beginning with "All 20s are..." because I'm an individual.
- I want to use this forum to interact with the people I play with. Blizzard has a bracket system and so has this site. I think it should stay that way.
- Of course I should follow the CoC. Everyone should, it's the rules this forum is built on.
 
24s are scumbags. F2P rules.

You like that?

I usually don't post in the 24 Forums, but when I do, be sure I'm there to troll.

On a serious note: It just bugs some F2Ps 24s play solely to grief on F2Ps. I do understand it. I'm fine with it. But some people just aren't. You are one of the finer examples of the general 24. Not too bad, not good either, think you are there for the good and great, trying for 'competitive games'. However, you make the state of the bracket even worse.
 
Not sure where this topic should go. Did not see a suggestions forum.

TI needs a forum for 24's. The relentless spin from F2P players in topics in the 20-24 bracket is a detractor and does not make P2P players comfortable. It borders on harassment. The F2P have their own forum and the P2P should as well. Moderation should warn, move and remove topics and replies that are better suited in either the bracket forum or the F2P.

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if only in the game bracket was like this where f2p could only go up against other f2p. Would suck for 24s q though. But would solve the problem of people coming in and trolling I guess. /shrug. You have to understand some people as hard as they try not to will dislike 24s which results in them burning of steam by bashing 24s who may not know why. Just like f2ps should know what they are going to get into so should 24s know what happens when they enter this specific bracket. You can stop f2ps trolling in the forums but ingame its the same story they will hate your guts. They will not like to play with you for the most part and would wish you were separated. Why not setup realid wargames (idk f2p) to avoid f2ps. I mean why did you chose to play this bracket in the first place? to bash 20s? To look for a competitive bracket? 85s not working? 19s look fun. I know this has been mentioned to you if not: gaining acceptance from 20s will never or will be extremely hard to obtain.

Any who just ask mods to clean your thread up and dont respond to them so that you dont sidetrack your own thread (because the troll(s) win). Dont feed the trolls and dont throw logs of wood to the flame. GL. Keeping threads clean is easy if you ask mods.
 
There are some level 20 player who are p2p. Some that don't even choose to follow the F2P restrictions and just remain 20 because they feel that's enough of an advantage in this bracket. Where would you suggest they post? Stop being so damn whiney on the forums, its pathetic.

I suggest Pay 2 Play post in the P2P 20-24 Forum. :D
 
I suggest Pay 2 Play post in the P2P 20-24 Forum. :D

So you want a f2p section, a f2p 20-24 section and a p2p 20-24 section?

I agree, why don't we divide this bracket even further?

Also, wouldn't this mean there should be a classic 60-64 section and a bc 60-64 section? And a wotlk 80-84 section and a cata 80-84 section! How about those 1-9 forums, what does lv 5 tinking have to do with lv 3 tinking?

Its like rolling a mastery stacking mage at 80, or running a triple tazik 70 PMR. It also reminds me of 64 gemming DKs, and 19 gemming hunters.

They don't think they should have their own subforum, why do you?
 
I am sorry, but I do not see the point of separating the forums. Nothing is going to change.

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