24s are fround upon?

[Xsifilad]

I have been playing with my 20 mage for few days now, and i keep noticing that even though the bracket is a 20-24 most ppl come as 20s(even non trial caped ppl).



What i also notice is that ppl who come as 24s are mostly hunter/rogue/retadin

And if you look them up and look at how they play you notice that person clearly dose not have good gear or knows how to play or cares about flag and tactics but simply made the character to "put down others" and they don't stick around for long.



I have been toying with the idea of making a 24 ever since i came back to the game 3 days ago.



But will it make ppl hate me? I Feel its a necessity to make a 24, to oppose enemy players of equal level, to be able to help me team better. I am not the kind of guy who is looking for the easiest kill, farms GY or engages in mid field zerging.



So to help get that message across to my fellow team m8s and even enemy team i was thinking of making something less threatening like a healer to look more like a, "I am her for the sport, and team work." and less like a, "Oh man i am so gona own those 20s with my 2-bit shit-geared 24 hunter."



What do you think ppl?

 

[Xenas]

You will most likely be frowned upon yes

 

[Dorigon]

yes ppl may froun upon u

 

[saxxon]

u will have so much fun it wont matter how fround upon u get

 

[Xsifilad]

Am just trying to figure out why you know.



Is it because trial accounts are responsible for activity, and because without their numbers there wouldnt be any 20-24 bgs, so we honor them by locking XP at 20?



Or is it because bad players ruined the reputation of 24s by making op class lvl 24 charrs and just playing rotten?



Or is it a bit of both?



Where this unwritten rule or mentality came from?

 

[Willesen1]

Good post, cheers

Does this mean that the 20-24 bracket is actually active? Even xp-off?



I'm considering to make a scrublol hunter, not because I want to steamroll and midfield everything, mainly just because I haven't played a hunter since I began 5 years ago.



Also a quick question - trial accounts who (obviously) stop at 20 - does that count as locked xp or are they still playing in the XP on bracket?



Regards



edit - if it's frowned upon then I'd be willing to lock the xp at 20, just to be a part of the community without killing it

 

[Xsifilad]

Its very active in the evening that's for sure, pop after pop, and i guess it is mainly because of trial account who are transferred to play on XP-off bgs.



And i don't think you are hurting the community, its just community being stupid. I guess its mostly because ppl who actually roll 24 just don't put any effort in making their character and are typical scrubs, that's why everyone is thinking less of 24 players. If more good players played 24 then the old scrub stereotype would go away, but for some reason all good players decided to nerf themselves lol(including me for now at-least).



Or perhaps it got something to do with the fact that 20 twinks are the real old school twinks back when brackets were 11-20 21-30 and so on.

 

[Noble]

Just don't pay attention to them. Go your own wayn make a 24, pew pew everything be the best tink wurld. It's still cool.



Even if people piss off at you because you're 24, most of them don't even know how to play their class, what the goal of WSG is and other stuffs like that.



Go for it !





My shaman (used to be 19) : Nectar

 

[R Prime]

"I am not the kind of guy who is looking for the easiest " = roll a 20



I have no doubt rolling a 24 would be fun... but joining a premade with a 20 is way better.

 

[Franchi]

I made a lvl 24 huntard to farm honor for boas cause i don't have a main on dragonmaw. Now I find myself unable to bring myself to hit the que button.



I'm such a pathetic softy.

 

[Xsifilad]

"I am not the kind of guy who is looking for the easiest " = roll a 20

You took that out of context, i said easiest fight, you can look for an easy fight on any level twink.

And i already have a 20 mage, i just want to have a 24 druid on top so i can come heal when things look grim.

 

[Ohai]

20-24 bracket is a complete joke.



I'm convinced the only people who play it must be people who miss farming noobs pre XP-off, aka the bads

 

[Franchi]

20-24 bracket is a complete joke.



I'm convinced the only people who play it must be people who miss farming noobs pre XP-off, aka the bads

I feel the same way about the 24's and that's part of why i cannot play mine. But the 20's on the other hand there are a lot of people with paid accounts playing lvl 20's and abiding the same restrictions as a trial accounts, so not everyone in the bracket deserves the scorn we so often heap upon it.

 

[Donteventrii]

I feel the same way about the 24's and that's part of why i cannot play mine. But the 20's on the other hand there are a lot of people with paid accounts playing lvl 20's and abiding the same restrictions as a trial accounts, so not everyone in the bracket deserves the scorn we so often heap upon it.

Not really. They have enchants that trials can't get. Trials usually have grey/green gear and no chants. These people have full boas, vanilla end game chants, and BIS Boes/BoPs.

 

[Xsifilad]

20-24 bracket is a complete joke.



I'm convinced the only people who play it must be people who miss farming noobs pre XP-off, aka the bads

I don't agree.



Ill start by saying that i never liked 19 bracket, IMHO it just ****ing sux(for me), i could not play it in BC, could not play it in WotLK and cant play it now, all my 19 twinks ended up being 29, 39, 49, anything but not 19s (i guess i don't like it coz there are almost no abilities and i neither like playing as or against hunters in this bracket)



Lets take it from the top and compare top level pvp and twink pvp for a second.



Xp-off twink bracket is like max level rated BG, in both places you go up against equal geared/skilled players.

Pre xp-off twink bg is like normal max level BG, both places you have differently geared skilled players on both sides.



When xp-off arrived twinks v twink only, i felt like they should have made all max level top skilled, top geared players play only vs equally geared/skilled. Coz that would make sense, you separate the best from the rest at low level you might as well do the same at max level. And so they did with rated BG's

BUT max level bad ass gladiators with item level 500mil. and lightning reflexes can still CHOOSE to qeue up for normal BGs with ppl who just dinged max level wearing nothing but green crap and know nothing of how to play their class and how to efficiently control their character. (But twinks can't, we do not have that choice.)

And no one ever says anything about glads owning newly dinged newbs, coz all you gona get in response is "Yeh you got owned by a gladiator, L2p get better gear."

And you know why? because its actually hard to be a good arena/rated BG player while every @sshole can make a twink.



What the hell can we get out of all this i just said you might ask.

Well just because there are assholes who make twinks it dose not mean that everyone who wants to play a bg with trials is an @sshole! Some of those ppl actually are good, play with a sense of sportsmanship, and are playing for the win not just to kill a few noobs.



SO just because my favorite bracket(49) is out of commission and the only other highly active alternative is 14-19 and 20-24 and i choose the second(coz i hate the first) dose not automatically make me one of the bads!



I would now kindly ask you to not say rash things like that in the future.

 

[Franchi]

Not really. They have enchants that trials can't get. Trials usually have grey/green gear and no chants. These people have full boas, vanilla end game chants, and BIS Boes/BoPs.

I'm talking about the ones that use only what a F2P toon cold get, as in no enchants over 75 enchanting skill, trials can get boas.

 

[R Prime]

Not really. They have enchants that trials can't get. Trials usually have grey/green gear and no chants. These people have full boas, vanilla end game chants, and BIS Boes/BoPs.

You do you mean you people? /lol

 

[bynzor]

Or perhaps it got something to do with the fact that 20 twinks are the real old school twinks back when brackets were 11-20 21-30 and so on.

The old brackets were 10-19, 20-29, x0-x9 and so on.



You could only get in a 10-19 queue as 20 if you joined the queue then leveled to 20, but then next queue you'd be in 20-29

 

[Franchi]

The old brackets were 10-19, 20-29, x0-x9 and so on.



You could only get in a 10-19 queue as 20 if you joined the queue then leveled to 20, but then next queue you'd be in 20-29

Better edit fast your new player is showing. oh wait to late now lol.

 

[Xsifilad]

The old brackets were 10-19, 20-29, x0-x9 and so on.



You could only get in a 10-19 queue as 20 if you joined the queue then leveled to 20, but then next queue you'd be in 20-29

A quick lesson in history

There is more then 1 old bracket type in this game. Before there was #0-#9 there was #1-#0, i remember gnomes didn't need to fish for fishing hat coz they could just use deep dive helmet from 230 engineering coz it was same +15 stam. Then they changed it to #0-#9, and lets just say its was not a very funny day.

This was the old bracket i was referring to.



P.S. I am rly not found(most of the time) of the fetish of making a new acc every time you find yourself short of balls to post something.